The Sandy Hook Bushmaster?

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  1. Texxut

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    It was reported early on, that the Bushmaster was recovered from the trunk of a car. Has anyone actually seen that report or film of it's recovery?

    Also, The school had a new camera system, why haven't we seen film of Lanza carrying the bushmaster? I propose it's because he used pistols, not the rifle. But that doesn't fit obozo's agenda.
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    i have watched the video over and over, and what they pulled out of the trunk, was not an AR15, but an sks.
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    watching the Senate hearing right now, Senater Frankenstien says that the guns from this shooting where not stolen but given to Adam Lanza, by his mother.
    Now how do they know this? The only two who could know are both dead.
    And if they where given to him, and not stolen, why the need to shoot your mother?
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    The most aggravating part of this is the media keeps repeatedly saying he used an assault rifle. As recent as three days ago, there was another article in the NY Times that said it again. I tried to write them, but conveniently the writers email link does not work.
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    Yeah,most of us with common sense will agree with you on this,the whole thing stinks.
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    Actually it was the shotgun that they mentioned, Saiga 12,still seems strange that this is the only footage of pretty much anything of the shooters that has been televised so far. And why film that at night? It also looks like the cop is purposely displaying it to the cameras above.
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    I'm pretty firm in my belief that there was never an AR in that school; and the long gun in the trunk looked like a semi-auto shotgun (and was never used).

    Methinks this nutcase did his deed with handguns and the 'bushmaster fairy' showed up in time to sprinkle .223 casings around, if they even went that far. Lots of simple questions with no answers. I'm wondering if the responders 'assisted' in the suicide of the shooter after seeing tons of dead children. I hope there's no person or agency that would be capable of actually doing the shooting, but someone sure jumped in quick with some new 'facts' to tell of how it went down.
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    CT State Police released a list of guns used in the shooting, but for the life of me I have to wonder why all the smoke, and mirrows? What happened to the report of the car all shot up, and who shot it up? What happened to the guys the police picked up, and detained? Why was there a report that he did not use an AR type rifle, but 4 pistols? Then yet another report that he used an AR type rifle? I smell something fishy! I also believe that a government that would give guns to drug cartels in Mexico, that were used to kill hundreds of inocent men, women, and children, is capable of anything!
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    that was one of the ones i thought it was, but if you watch the vid when he extracts the round. it is all brass. you can see it s it lays in the trunk.
    the only one that has a side charging handle that far up on the reciever,is an sks. yes so does the shotgun, but the cartridge that is extracted, is all brass.
    the ak's are farther down closer to the stock, a minni14 the reciever is open on the top,where this one was on the side, and we all know the AR charging handel is on top of the recever and over the stock.
    So if ya watch how he handles the firearm, and see how it functions and where sertan parts are located at, and the cartridge that is discharged, and you can see the round siting there....
    Only one firearm fits. and that is the SKS.
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    I saw that extracted bullet also, the gun in the trunk was not a shot gun.
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    Why all the smoke and mirrows?
    What is the most popular self defence firearm owend by privet citizens?
    That would be the AR15,
    If you wanted to out law it, just try to make it the bad guy here, where a great tradgady happened.
    take that firearm away and the reast will follow, and you just cripled the people to stand up to a tyranical govt. agenda.
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    thats why they keep calling it an AR15 and not an SKS. the SKS is no where neare as popular or reliable as the AR.
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    Bottom line is, we are being lied to.
    weather you think it was a shotgun or an SKS or a Sig halo, we defenetly know it is NOT an AR15.
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    It was an umbrella! Might as well have been, we will never know the truth.
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    exactly.
    I was wondering where you where at.
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    I disagree. I own many SKS's, and it just doesn't look like one to me. Granted, the video footage sucks and it's hard to tell. But it looks to me like when he first pulls it out of the trunk, he removes a very large magazine. Notice the way he does this. He's holding a pistol grip with his right hand, and pulls the mag out with his left hand. You can't do this on an SKS, even one that's been fitted with an aftermarket stock and detachable magazine. The mag release can't be operated by the hand that is removing the magazine, since the release tab has to be pulled rearward.

    But the AK mag release can. It's meant to be held by the pistol grip in one hand, while the mag is removed with the other. You use the thumb on the hand that's gripping the magazine to pull the mag release forward. This fact, plus the huge honkin' size of the magazine, tells me it is indeed a Saiga as the reports have said.

    As for the ejected round, it looks to me like a yellow plastic shotgun shell. Especially the way it tumbles and bounces in the floor of the trunk. A 7.62x39 cartridge would not do that. And it's way too big to be 7.62x39 anyway.

    My money is on it being a Saiga shotgun. Although someone here tries to make the case it's a Sig:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UfyH5RUbE
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    like a said sniper, It comes down to what we know about firearms,
    I came to my conclushion, on what I know about firearms.
    And yes i think it is one of the two, and I'm leaning more toureds the sks then the Saiga.
    The one thing we can agree on,I'm serton of is that, It is not an AR15.
    which brings us to Carvere's question. Why the lie? and why stick to it so hard, when they could always say they made a mistak, but still try to push there asalt weapon theory. by saying what it actualy was.
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    Absolutely agreed; it's not an AR15. That mystery Bushmaster still remains to be seen by anyone except the Bushmaster fairy. But then again, there's a lot of other information that's been kept secret as well.
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    I agree, that to me, it looked like a Saiga, my monitor or my eyes(eye, only have one) are not that good that I can see it was all brass, the first indication that made me start thinking it was a shotgun, was the size of the single piece of ammo that was ejected, that and other indicators such as the location of the charging handle/grip, I believe it was filmed by a news helicopter,

    Something that I didn't notice until later, the guy that is handling it, is not wearing any gloves that I can tell,

    Also the car that this gun was found in, that was supposed to be the car that Lanza drove to the school, was registered to a known, registered child sex offender, that lived in the area, the house he lived in/shared, is owned by someome that is involved with the pornographic movie industry, don't know if he was a producer or what, but is in that industry, the person the car was registered to quickly hired an attorney, and moved to Florida,

    There is even recorded, from a police scanner, a LEO calling in the license plate number, and the dispatcher coming back with the registered owners name, and it is the guy that bailed out and went to Florida, but not a word about it(as with everything else in this case) in the "news" media,

    I can dig up the link if you had not heard about this yet, not that it matters probably, we are never going to know the real details, unless someone comes forward with the truth, but if someone ever did that they no doubt would be discredited, likely wind up a suicide, or made to look like one,
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    Like senater frankenstine and chife Johnson: both are saying the wepons where given to him. that he did not steal them.
    How do they know this?
    Adam and his mother are the only to that could know, And as far as I know, you can't question a dead person and they answer.
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