The strange story of a stuck cylinder of my almost new Ruger Vaquero

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  1. The Count

    The Count New Member

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    the practically new 5" SS ruger vaquero experienced a strange problem at the range the other day. after firing about 14 shots without problems the cylinder got 'stuck'. it would not advance when pulling back the hammer. i managed to take out the long pin as i thought i would just do a field strip and remove the cylinder but the cylinder will not come out nor rotate. i jiggled the gun for half an hour trying to get the cylinder loose, including pulling the hammer back a bit but nothing helped. there are 5 live rounds in the gun at this point. not really a good thing. and the pin will not go back in at this point either. taking a close look with a magnifying glass and a very strong light i saw that none of the rounds are neither stuck in the barrel nor were the case heads jamming somewhere.

    this morning i spoke to a guy from the ruger cs department who said he cant understand why the cylinder will not come out. but one cannot ship a loaded gun and i have to submerge the cylinder in wd40 for a whole week to make sure the rounds go dead. so i actually did this (took off the grips though).

    later i got a call from another guy from ruger who seemed to be more senior/a head tech guy. he listed to my story and then suggested i whack the side of the cylinder with a rubber hammer a couple times. he said nothing would fire as long as the hammer was all the way down. and low and behold, after 3 good hits the cylinder came out. i got another call from ruger and after confirming the bullets were out of the gun they set up a UPS pickup for monday to take a close look of what might be the issue at the factory. i must say, pretty impressive customer service. anybody here willing to guess what the problem might be/was?
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  2. Zane71464

    Zane71464 Well-Known Member

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    Ive never heard of that happening, but a guess would be with the cylinder latch
    and the transfer bar not in sync in one fashion or another?
  3. JLA

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    I have had it happen on a single six. and Zane is very close to the problem, sometimes the hammer will bind in a certain spot where the locking bolt/hammer/trigger/transfer bar all begin to move into position to fire the next round. It only happens when trying to thumb the revolver one handed because you tend to slightly depress the trigger to gain leverage necessary to cock the weapon, thus binding if you hold your tongue just right. Its a rare mishap and one i have only ever seen happen to transfer bar revolvers. The good ol fashioned 4 click singles arent as easy to lock up and when they do its because something broke...
  4. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    Something like this happened with my Ruger LCR last week at the range, but the cylinder would turn but just would not open. I played around with it for a few minutes until I got disgusted with it and laid it aside and continued shooting with another gun. I thought about it for a while and decided I would look at it again.

    I don't know all the technical terms but, what had happened was the ejector rod had been unscrewing as I was shooting and had caused it to press against the frame so hard that it would not open. When I realized this, I just screwed it down enough to open the cylinder and then tightened it properly.
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    Mosin_Nagant_Fan New Member

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    Sounded like a binding problem that loosened from some combination of the WD40 and the hammer blows.
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    On the first gun, I suspect the firing pin was stuck in a primer and either was binding so it couldn't retract or the transfer bar was jamming it and stopping it from coming back.

    Jim
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    I have a 50th anniversary Blackhawk with a very similar problem. Stuck cylinder, hammer won't turn it, can't remove it. In my case, it is poor quality control on my reloads... one of the primers was not seated deeply enough, so it is protruding and preventing the cylinder from turning. I'm dropping it off with my local gunsmith on Friday.
  8. The Count

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    did you try to remove that long pin that secures the cylinder? and if yes, could you wiggle the cylinder back and forth just a tad? when you open the gate can you see the gate latch retreating? the ruger guy said that if the pin is out and the cylinder latch retracts when the gate is open there is nothing actually holding the cylinder in place. of course its still stuck, so go figure. but a couple hits with a rubber hammer did get the damn thing out. in your particular case i am pretty sure the gunsmith will do the same, but if the round goes off you wont be the one getting the shrapnel. high primers are tricky.
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    johnlives4christ Former Guest

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    if the hammer plunger binds up it will cause the symptoms you described count
  10. The Count

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    OK guys, just got the gun back from Ruger. It says:

    CYLINDER RATCHET...... Repaired
    CYLINDER LATCH...........Replaced
    PAWL..........................Repaired

    Glad they fixed it, not sure what those parts really are.... :)
  11. Big Shrek

    Big Shrek Active Member

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    Now, go trade it in for something better.

    I went thru hades with my pair of Vaquero's...now they've been traded in, and I don't have ANY problems...no timing issues, nothing. Get a Colt ;)

    Ruger's quality has been going to hades since around 1995, dunno what happened then, but it's really showing nowadays.
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    As though Colt has never had issues? I can't say enough about Colt's poor service to several problems I've had through the years with their products, as well as Ruger.
    Warranty or not, I've given up on both companies "service departments".
  13. JLA

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    screw em both... get a smith and wesson;)
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    +1 on that brother!;)
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    grampawmike New Member

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    Just as JLA and Zane said. To avoid any confusion I enclose a definition (by photo) of a true revolver. JMHO Mike

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  16. Boris

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    I want one EXACTLY like that!! A hiker in my area shot a 400 pound even black bear for defense while hiking with a 44 Spcl. It was with a Kieth style hardcast at about 1000 fps. I do not remember the weight. The round went right through it and dropped it on the spot. That would make a great trail companion!!

    I am so jealous right now....sigh.
  17. JLA

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    I gotta get me a set of wood stocks for my DCM...
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    Zane71464 Well-Known Member

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    What kind you looking for JLA, original that came on them from the factory?
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    No, I want a set of the hardwood finger groove grips from hogue, pretty much the same as the monogrip except 'elegant'.
  20. Zane71464

    Zane71464 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, Ive been thinking the same thing for one of mine.;)
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