This is a LOADED GUN. More Freedoms GONE!

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    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][font=Verdana,]This is scary..... More Patriot Act type Giveaways.....[/font][/font]
    Marlin
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    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][font=Verdana,][size=-1]ON CAPITOL HILL[/font]
    [font=Palatino,][size=+2]Citizenship check
    for licenses OK'd
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    [font=Palatino,][size=+1]Bill passed in House also empowers
    security secretary to 'waive all laws'[/size][/font]
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    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times][size=-1]February 10, 2005
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    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]The House today passed a bill that would require states to check the citizenship of a driver's license applicant, an attempt to reform a system manipulated by terrorists such as the 9-11 hijackers. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]The Real ID Act, approved by a 261-to-161 vote, includes a number of anti-terrorism provisions approved last year by the House in response to the 9-11 commission's recommendations but dropped due to Senate opposition. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]"This unfinished business from last year aims to prevent another 9-11-type attack by disrupting terrorist travel," said Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the bill's chief sponsor. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Sensenbrenner said that under the Real ID Act, "no longer will a Mohammed Atta receive a six-month visa and then attain a drivers' license good for six years." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]The Bush administration has announced it "strongly supports" the bill after it was rejected by Congress and the White House in December as part of a massive measure to reform and reorganize intelligence agencies. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]The National Governors Association and a group representing motor vehicle department administrators are among the bill's opponents, arguing the required background information to determine whether a person is in the country legally would be burdensome. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Under the legislation, judges also could more easily deport a foreigner seeking political asylum who is suspected of terrorism. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Some critics object to an overlooked section that apparently gives the White House sweeping powers to suspend laws for the purpose of protecting U.S. borders. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Section 102 of the REAL ID Act of 2005 seeks to expedite the building of a three-mile fence at the border near San Diego to staunch the flood of illegal aliens that travel through an area known as "smuggler's gulch." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Environmental laws have been the project's chief roadblock, but the bill's language appears to provide an unlimited scope, reading, "Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall have the authority to waive, and shall waive, all laws such Secretary, in such Secretary's sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads under this section." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Significantly, it also says courts are prohibited from reviewing the secretary's decision. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]A spokesman for Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif. -- a supporter of the bill whose district includes the border area -- said he could not comment on the scope of the measure's language. But he emphasized the need to construct the barrier as soon as possible to shut down a potential entry point by terrorists. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]"There is an urgent priority to finish it," said Joe Kasper. "For several years, we've been going back and forth with the California Coastal Commission to finish up this border fence, with little success." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]But Jim Harper, a former judiciary committee staffer who now serves as director of information policy studies for the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, believes the way the bill is written does not limit the secretary's powers to removing environmental impediments. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]"Taking judicial review away is quite dramatic," he told WND. "The secretary, under a strict reading, could waive any law and conceivably detain people, wiretap -- the list would go on and on of the laws that could be waived." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Harper said he objects to the bill being run through so quickly, which limits participation in the process to only the most aggressive players in Congress. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]"It's really difficult to write legislation well," he said, "which is the reason we have a slow, deliberative process. Here we are not having that process, and the result is shoddily written legislation." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Kasper acknowledged the language is broad. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]"But one thing we need to remember is, we are looking within the limits of the secretary of Homeland Security, what he deems necessary to finish fences and roads for the sake of national security," Kasper said. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]To Americans who want assurance their civil liberties will not be eroded, he said: "The real assurance is in the safety [the bill] will provide, especially in relation to this border fence that will [block] terrorists trying to penetrate our border." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]The section of the proposed legislation reads: [/font]



    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]SEC. 102. WAIVER OF LAWS NECESSARY FOR IMPROVEMENT OF BARRIERS AT BORDERS. [/font][font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Section 102(c) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1103 note) is amended to read as follows: [/font]
    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times](c) Waiver- [/font]


    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times](1) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall have the authority to waive, and shall waive, all laws such Secretary, in such Secretary's sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads under this section. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times](2) NO JUDICIAL REVIEW- Notwithstanding any other provision of law (statutory or nonstatutory), no court shall have jurisdiction-- [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times](A) to hear any cause or claim arising from any action undertaken, or any decision made, by the Secretary of Homeland Security pursuant to paragraph (1); or [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times](B) to order compensatory, declaratory, injunctive, equitable, or any other relief for damage alleged to arise from any such action or decision.[/font]



    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Sensenbrenner says the main purpose is to "prevent another 9-11 attack by disrupting terrorist travel." [/font]


    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Jeff Deist, spokesman for Rep. Ron Paul -- a Texas Republican who regularly raises civil-liberties concerns -- said his staff is getting a first look at the sections related to the fence, but "on face value, as written, it's exceedingly broad." [/font]


    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]"The ostensible purpose is to allow the Homeland Security secretary to operate in that one area -- but 'all laws'? Would that include the Posse Comitatus Act?" he asked, referring to the measure passed in 1878 that bars the Army, and now the Air Force also, from executing laws except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Paul contends that despite Sensenbrenners' denials, the REAL ID Act moves the country toward creation of a national ID card. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]A group called Defenders of Wildlife said it believes that although Sensenbrenner repeatedly has described H.R. 418 as limited only to the San Diego project, it likely would enable the secretary to waive all laws applying to the nearly 7,500 miles of border with Mexico and Canada. [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Rodger Schlickeisen, president of the group, called the section "extreme and unnecessary." [/font]

    [font=palatino, times new roman, georgia, times]Hunter's spokesman Kasper said he could not address the question of whether the law would apply beyond the San Diego area and referred WND to the House Judiciary Committee. But a staffer for the committee already had referred WND to Hunter's office for questions about that part of the bill.[/font]


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