1. Get Gear'd Up! Enter to WIN $1000 in gear!

    Please Click Here for full details and to enter. You will need to be registered and logged in to view the details and to participate.

    Thanks and good luck to everyone

To lube or not to lube dat is da ?

Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by mad mother, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. mad mother

    mad mother Former Guest

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2012
    Messages:
    49
    I recently received a dillion 550. If I load five7 ( necked pistola brass) do I have to lube ?
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2012
  2. Bindernut

    Bindernut Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2007
    Messages:
    3,248
    Location:
    ND, USA
    Yup, it's a bottlenecked cartridge.
  3. JohnTheCalifornian

    JohnTheCalifornian Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2009
    Messages:
    454
    Location:
    Bakersfield
    It depends on whether you have carbide dies or not.

    Carbide dies require no lube on the cases in order to resize.

    If your dies are steel, then yes, you will need lube.(oops, saw you type out five 7... rifle dies... there are some carbide out there, but they still require lubing)

    Chances are, your dies are carbide, especially if you purchased them new just rescently.

    In any event, the question you are asking me kinda makes me feel as though you do not have a reloading manual or you havent read one yet. In the manuals are almost every answer to any question you could come up with. After reading one or 2, and you are still stumped by something, dont hesitate to come back and ask.

    Reading the manuals is a must, because in the end of the day, it is your safety and others nearby thats at stake if you do something wrong.
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2012
  4. mad mother

    mad mother Former Guest

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2012
    Messages:
    49
    TY. I havent read manual. and havent reloaded in years. I like the tungsten carbied dies . When I used to load remember running some necked brass through with no lube and some Id have to lube. If it gets crunched time to lube. Very. excited to get back into loading and. casting .
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2012
  5. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    11,616
    Location:
    NW Florida
    John - bottleneck cartridge. Carbide dies are for straight-wall cartridges.

    So, yes, unless your plan is to get cases stuck in your sizing die, you need lube.
  6. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    11,966
    Location:
    Northeast Georgia
    Yes you will have to lube them. I don't use my Dillon with the 5.7X28, I do it single stage on my Lee press. I bought a Lyman neck size only die for my reloads. If you are shooting them out of the FiveseveN or the PS-90, you cannot neck size them because of what those guns do to the shoulder and neck of the brass.

    I shoot the 5.7 out of a custom made Thompson Contender barrel and that is why I can get away with neck only sizing.
  7. JohnTheCalifornian

    JohnTheCalifornian Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2009
    Messages:
    454
    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Alpo,

    I realized it was 5.7 after I initially wrote my post and I edited it with a statement in parenthases.

    Anyow, Dillon offers carbide rifle dies. Cases still require lubing.

    Check them out Here
  8. American Leader

    American Leader Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,717
    Location:
    Iowa
    George, you mentioned LEE!:bow: You know LD recently converted and now speaks very highly of LEE!:D
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2012
  9. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2007
    Messages:
    18,271
    Location:
    Heart Of Texas
    I noticed that AL. Hell hath frozen over it seems.. :D
  10. American Leader

    American Leader Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,717
    Location:
    Iowa
  11. muddober

    muddober Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    1,447
    That little 5.7 cartridge is a bugger to reload and if the brass is coming from an auto loader pistol you will have to lube each case but you should not reload them more than a couple of times. The reason it is the 5.7 is a very high pressure loading and the cases are really deformed by the FN pistol and everytime you resize it work hardens the brass. Case ruptures are a very big and dangerous deal in the FN pistol.

    I have no experience with cases that come from that funny looking FN auto rifle.

    Ron
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2012
  12. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2003
    Messages:
    6,693
    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LDBennett
  13. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2003
    Messages:
    6,693
    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    mad mother:

    Any bottle necked case requires lube as Bindernut indicated. Dillon (and others??) make carbide dies for bottleneck cases but they still require lube.

    While some here prefer spray lubes I like the old fashioned RCBS lube pad and their squeeze bottle lube. It is so easy to roll the case on the pad as I pick it up to put it on the RL550B table. Spray lube is messy and inconsistent in application, in my opinion. The RCBS lube is water soluble and wipes off with a damp cloth as the last step of my reloading procedure. I also inspect each round at that point.

    Now, straight walled handgun cartridges can use carbide dies without lube.

    LDBennett

    PS: Just to be clear, except for the LEE rifle Factor Crimp Die, LEE stuff sucks!

    Are we clear on that, guys?????? :) :)

    Anything but LEE forever!
  14. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    11,966
    Location:
    Northeast Georgia
    Shortly after I first started reloading the 5.7, I did a test of how many times the brass could be reloaded.

    Here is a link to a thread that I started when I thought something was wrong with the FiveseveN pistol and PS-90 carbine that I had. The last entry in that thread is where I tell about the test I did with the brass.

    http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=40043&highlight=5.7x28

    EDIT: Oh yeah, guys, I have read several times where LD says that the FCD is the only Lee stuff he uses and that he likes that one, so he is really not converted.
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2012
  15. NEILT

    NEILT New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2011
    Messages:
    83
    I still use lube even with carbide dies, it seems to go faster
Similar Threads
Forum Title Date
The Ammo & Reloading Forum Homemade Bullet Lube for Cast Bullets Sep 19, 2014
The Ammo & Reloading Forum Homemade case lube Sep 16, 2014
The Ammo & Reloading Forum Is There Any Other Cast Bullet Lube Besides Alox Thats Not So Gummy Jun 26, 2014
The Ammo & Reloading Forum Hornady Gun Cleaner and Dry Lube with Dyna Glide Plus Apr 15, 2014
The Ammo & Reloading Forum I made my own case lube yesterday. Apr 13, 2014

Share This Page