Today's 7-Shot Range-Report

Discussion in 'Disabled Hunters & Shooters Forum' started by GConn, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. GConn

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    Gentlemen - carver & JLA - thank you much - your comments are VERY MUCH appreciated. And I very much take your comments, suggestions opinions and advice to Heart. It helps...it really really helps to have the moral support - as well as the expertise.

    I agree with all written here (which is a bit unusual for me - haha) and I have seen here in recent days, buy using some Snap Caps, that the pistol does indeed want to jump to the right ever-so-slightly (well heck, it does more than "want to", it does unless I am pretty dog-on aggressive with my grip ... TOO aggressive -or too "tight" - I think).

    One-hand is not gettin' it done no matter how tight I grip it, so, I most certainly will need to use a two-handed grip, which seems to help quite well - especially now that I've read what you fine folks have written here.

    Another thing I read recently - in addition to the suggestions from you fine men - is to slightly "push" (I think it said) with my right hand while slightly "pulling" with my left at the same time...? You fellers ever heard of that? May be a slight modification of what you were saying Mr. JLA?

    Thanks again gents! "HSS"! ~ Happy-SAFE-shootin'!
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    yeah, kinda the same thing there. You want to put the pistol high (grip, pistol should be as low as it will go into the web of your hand) and comfortable in your shooting hand, then grip both the pistol and your shooting hand with your offhand. I can see the push pull thing, push the gun away with your shooting hand while you pull it in with your offhand. It creates the same mechanical bind.

    Other than that I believe you are using the 'hollywood' trigger finger. Pull your trigger finger out of the trigger guard and engage the trigger low near the tip with the pad between your fingertip and first knuckle.. This prevents jerk and will allow you to defeat the heavy DA pull with a straight back press...
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    Hmmm, ok, I get (understand) the arms positioning, and the grip, however, I'll need to think about and practice/work-on this Hollywood finger of mine! That is going to take some work.

    I don't exactly have the biggest "sausage fingers" in the world, but I'm a chunky-thick sorta guy, and I would say my fingers are a bit thicker than "average"...and it seems to me, this trigger and guard were designed for someone with slightly smaller digits than mine...as soon as I cross the threshold of the guard at even just the very minimum, the top of my finger (where the finger-nail is) - the top surface of the nail is touching against (just barely, but it is "brushing-up against") the inside, front part of the guard. I don't want to go TOO far OUT of the guard though, as that seems to loosen my grip ... or at least substantially loosens my contact with the trigger - and I'm afraid if I practice too much with it that way, and (Dear God forbid) the time ever comes where I MUST become defensive, I'm thinking more about keeping my finger OUT of the guard, than thinking about ALL the MYRIAD of things that I (that we all) may inevitably be thinking ... correct?
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    ill post a pic of what I mean. Youre not by any means gonna use a benchrest fingertip, you just dont want youre entire finger in there to engage the trigger.

    Gimme a sec, ill upload the pics...
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    here we go, just had the wife snap a couple for me.

    The Hollywood trigger is pictured first, followed by the proper trigger finger position.

    The hollywood trigger position will cause you to pull your shots right if youre right handed and left if youre left handed...

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    note the white finger tips on my offhand from grip pressure. Thats that pulling/pushing you heard of in effect...;)
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    Man-alive...this is great! The pics are worth MORE than a thousand words...

    The Good news, here, for me is: I'm already doing trigger-grip #2 (in your 2nd photo) - in fact, I'm actually not even going that deep into the guard, and have been concerned that I wasn't deep enough (that's what my girlfriend said too HA!!)

    Anyway, thank you MORE THAN a thousand for these...helps immensely...it really does JLA! ;- ]
    PS ~ I have a good amount of experience with triggers, and squeezing them...with the 12-gauge and a couple different rifles. Just not much with the handguns - which most certainly ARE different animals - thanks again!
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    Yessir! happy to help.

    I help new shooters in my area learn how to shoot and MANY of them tend to do what they seen Jack Bower do on the TV series 24... The hollywood trigger is THE single most common problem I see new shooters have, besides flinching of course;)
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    Excellent. I have to admit, flinching was HUGE for me at first (and I find can still be, depending on my mood) - even though I've shot long-guns for many years, something about that tiny-short barrel (a barrel of less than a couple feet long) was sorta spooky!

    Was obvious from the very first time I loaded a round into a handgun, that this was somehow "more serious" ... potentially A LOT easier to hurt (KILL) someone or get hurt (DEAD)...somehow...? Or maybe it's just a psychological thing??
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    i believe it is psychological for most. The percieved explosion is a couple feet away with a rifle. with a pistol its right in the palm of your hand. It makes a big difference for someone that isnt a seasoned pistol shooter

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