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I just joined the local shooting club and would like to get into trap and skeet.The only shotgun that I have now is a Remington 1100 12 ga.28"Modified.What barrel do you recomend for this shotgun for trap and skeet?
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Hi mckheean,
The shotgun barrel that feels the most comfortable to you is the one to use.
With modern powders a shotshell has burned all its powder up at 20 inches into the barrel. For this reason a longer barrel will do no more than give you a longer sighting plane and affect the way the shotgun swings for you.
Real serious Trap shooters like a long barrel for the longer sighting plane. But remember this is a shotgun throwing a pattern of shot, not a rifle where a long sighting plane makes precise aiming easier.
A shorter barrel is lighter and much quicker to aquire a target with. Balance of the gun will aslo be affected by barrel length.
When shooting flying targets with a shotgun it is important to "follow through". What I mean by this is to keep the barrel moving with the target. The biggest cuase of shooting behind the target is not following through. There are a couple different opinions on how barrel length affects this.
The first is that a longer barrel has more weight and there fore the kinetic energy of its motion will keep the barrel moving.
The second is that a longer barrel is harder and slower to get on target and you have to swing quicker to keep on target.
I shoot on a couple sporting clays teams and the occasional trap shoot. I prefer a shorter barrel.
The action of the shotgun also makes a differance. On a double barrel shotgun the action is much shorter than an automatic or pump, therefore a SxS or over under with a 28" barrel will be the same length or shorter as an atuo or pump with a 26".
My Browning SxS with the 26" barrel on it seems very short, but it swings VERY quick. I also have a 28" for it and with that one installed it is sorter than my Nova with the 26".
Choke selection is a whole 'nuther ball game. Trap is usually shot with full or mod choke and skeet is usually shot with I/C or skeet choke. If you do get another barrel get one with interchangeable chokes.
If your gun has a 3" reciever it might have problems with the light trap loads.
So shoot the barrel that is comfortable to you on the gun, the one that is on it is probably fine,
mckheean
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Thanks warpig883 that's what I need to know. Benny
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If you are going to get another shotgun. Go to a shop and try sighting down both types. Some people have a little difficulty sighting down one or the other. I prefer an O/U. I could not hit anything with a SxS. Happy shooting.
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I shoot a lot of trap. I prefer O/U with 30". I use a Citori 325. I have a 32" barrel also. Like the other guys said...look, look, look...try, try, try.
I love the old "eyes closed" test. Asume a ready stance, close eyes, bring the gun to firing position, the open eyes. Are you looking straight down the barrel? If so...it'll work! This, of course has more to do with comfort and LOP, but that is VERY important in trap and skeet.
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I shoot Trap/Skeet & Sporting Clays.
You have already received some very good advise.
Mostly, and from my personal associations with competitive shooters --
Trap Shooters often prefer a single barrel of 30"
Others choose the O/U 28/30 brls. (Seems to be individual
choices.
Skeet Shooters opt for O/U & Semi-auto w/spec brls
Sporting Clay Shooters are caught most of the time with expensive O/U with all the bells and whistles.
(Personal fitting of your chosen gun is a must.)
Have your lgth of pull and drop at comb and heel double checked and then practice to perfect your shooting routines.
It takes a lot of shooting and determination to compete successfully (Join the ATA & ASPA/ASSA.)
Charlie D
My guns: Trap Model 12 Winchester Trap 30" full/w tubes
Sporting Clays Ithaca 12 ga. O/U 30" full w/tubes
Skeet Winchester 101 Skeet O/U 28" skeet tubes
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I just joined the local shooting club and would like to get into trap and skeet.The only shotgun that I have now is a Remington 1100 12 ga.28"Modified.What barrel do you recomend for this shotgun for trap and skeet?
warpig883
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(11/26/02 11:31:47 am)
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Hi mckheean,
The shotgun barrel that feels the most comfortable to you is the one to use.
With modern powders a shotshell has burned all its powder up at 20 inches into the barrel. For this reason a longer barrel will do no more than give you a longer sighting plane and affect the way the shotgun swings for you.
Real serious Trap shooters like a long barrel for the longer sighting plane. But remember this is a shotgun throwing a pattern of shot, not a rifle where a long sighting plane makes precise aiming easier.
A shorter barrel is lighter and much quicker to aquire a target with. Balance of the gun will aslo be affected by barrel length.
When shooting flying targets with a shotgun it is important to "follow through". What I mean by this is to keep the barrel moving with the target. The biggest cuase of shooting behind the target is not following through. There are a couple different opinions on how barrel length affects this.
The first is that a longer barrel has more weight and there fore the kinetic energy of its motion will keep the barrel moving.
The second is that a longer barrel is harder and slower to get on target and you have to swing quicker to keep on target.
I shoot on a couple sporting clays teams and the occasional trap shoot. I prefer a shorter barrel.
The action of the shotgun also makes a differance. On a double barrel shotgun the action is much shorter than an automatic or pump, therefore a SxS or over under with a 28" barrel will be the same length or shorter as an atuo or pump with a 26".
My Browning SxS with the 26" barrel on it seems very short, but it swings VERY quick. I also have a 28" for it and with that one installed it is sorter than my Nova with the 26".
Choke selection is a whole 'nuther ball game. Trap is usually shot with full or mod choke and skeet is usually shot with I/C or skeet choke. If you do get another barrel get one with interchangeable chokes.
If your gun has a 3" reciever it might have problems with the light trap loads.
So shoot the barrel that is comfortable to you on the gun, the one that is on it is probably fine,
mckheean
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(11/26/02 12:11:41 pm)
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Thanks warpig883 that's what I need to know. Benny
pickenup
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(11/27/02 2:09:45 am)
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If you are going to get another shotgun. Go to a shop and try sighting down both types. Some people have a little difficulty sighting down one or the other. I prefer an O/U. I could not hit anything with a SxS. Happy shooting.
boomatic
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I shoot a lot of trap. I prefer O/U with 30". I use a Citori 325. I have a 32" barrel also. Like the other guys said...look, look, look...try, try, try.
I love the old "eyes closed" test. Asume a ready stance, close eyes, bring the gun to firing position, the open eyes. Are you looking straight down the barrel? If so...it'll work! This, of course has more to do with comfort and LOP, but that is VERY important in trap and skeet.
.05 cents
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(12/10/02 8:12:10 pm)
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ezSupporter
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I shoot Trap/Skeet & Sporting Clays.
You have already received some very good advise.
Mostly, and from my personal associations with competitive shooters --
Trap Shooters often prefer a single barrel of 30"
Others choose the O/U 28/30 brls. (Seems to be individual
choices.
Skeet Shooters opt for O/U & Semi-auto w/spec brls
Sporting Clay Shooters are caught most of the time with expensive O/U with all the bells and whistles.
(Personal fitting of your chosen gun is a must.)
Have your lgth of pull and drop at comb and heel double checked and then practice to perfect your shooting routines.
It takes a lot of shooting and determination to compete successfully (Join the ATA & ASPA/ASSA.)
Charlie D
My guns: Trap Model 12 Winchester Trap 30" full/w tubes
Sporting Clays Ithaca 12 ga. O/U 30" full w/tubes
Skeet Winchester 101 Skeet O/U 28" skeet tubes