Truth About George W Bush

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Marlin, Oct 12, 2007.

  1. Marlin

    Marlin *TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*

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    Unfortunately, I have to agree with this writer 1000%. There is no other plausible explanation for Bush's flip-flop. One must conclude that he never was what he purported to be. Again, the Eastern Establishment of RINO thinking has shown its true colours.....
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    It‘s Official – President Bush Has Lost His Mind!

    The Bush presidency is the largest disappointment in the history of the modern conservative movement. The Bush presidency was supposed to be the culmination of all the hard work conservatives had done. In 1994 the “Republican Revolution” in Congress and then the control of the executive branch by Bush gave this country the possibility of returning from big government liberal garbage to the sanity of the Constitution. Well we all know what happened. The “Republican revolution” was nothing more than an increase in the same old liberal big government garbage. They sold us out!

    I had my feelings about President George W. Bush when he ran for his first term. I had uneasy feelings about his so called “compassionate conservatism”. It reminded me of his father’s slap in the face of the great Ronald Regan. After Regan served his second term, George Bush senior said we needed a “kinder and gentler nation”. That was a direct insinuation that somehow Regan was not kind or gentle. It was the uneasy feelings that I had about President George W. Bush that caused me not to vote for him. I voted third party instead. When it came time to choose between Bush and Kerry in the last presidential election, I voted for Bush (while holding my nose) since I knew there was a good possibility that the Supreme Court would open a few seats. I hoped that Bush would appoint good justices and it seems he did. I will give him credit for that at least.

    Here is the problem; one can point to any president and come up with something that they did that was good (well almost any president). The real question is did that president move us closer or further away from the Constitution. Bush has been a disaster concerning the question. He along with the “Republican Revolution” congress moved us to bigger and bigger government with higher spending and the huge new prescription drug entitlement program, and centralizing education. Pork barrel spending and insane amounts of money spent in foreign aid in countries with corrupt governments. Bush tried to fight the Iraq war with political correctness instead of fighting the war as if it is a war.

    So many conservatives tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. “He must have a strategy we don’t understand yet.” In the end we all see the truth and those uneasy feelings that caused me not to vote for him the first time have proved to be right. President Bush has stabbed us in the back. He has shown his true colors and I do not like what I see. The final straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back was the last immigration amnesty insanity. What could be worse than allowing another amnesty program? What could be more insane than opening the borders up to another 50 million uneducated people over the next ten years who will drain social services? This land is supposed to be the land of the free…not the land of the free loaders!!! The insanity of the Bush/Kennedy collaboration on the amnesty bill only serves as a grave reminder that we are losing our national identity. Now we have the latest amnesty bill coming at us under the name “The Dream Act.” As I have written about this previously, it is another insane amnesty program wrapped up in a cuddly name. Isn’t that dreamy?...Give me a break!

    Now we get to the absolute, no turning back, worst act of insanity yet. On October, 10, 2007, The Bush administration went to the Supreme Court to argue in favor of an illegal alien who committed a double murder. He raped, tortured, and murdered two 15 year old girls. The Bush administration is now using its power and our money to argue that this murderous pig should have a new trial because of a ruling by “the world court” that stated the police should have contacted the Mexican consulate and advised them of the trial. The world court? What is this insane globalist garbage? Who cares what the “world court” has to say? This is the United States of America! We are 50 states that are unified under our Constitution. We elect our representatives and our presidents. I do not care what some globalist in another nation thinks about anything. This murderous scoundrel has no right to another trial. He admitted his guilt and even bragged about his sick crime. For President Bush, who previously stated that our justice system will never be under a world court, to now send his administration to argue in favor of submitting to this stupid world court ruling is treason. Yes you are reading that right TREASON! Any politician that thinks we Americans should submit to any another authority is a treasonous criminal. The crime perpetrated by this disgusting criminal is bad enough, but to add to it by having the President of the United Stated argue on his behalf makes me want to vomit. Mr. President you have lost your mind!

    Bush is a globalist and his desire along with his buddies in Mexico and Canada is to have Canada, the U.S.A., and Mexico join as one union like the European Union. It is called “the security and prosperity partnership.” The agenda is clear; they want globalism to eventually lead to one currency and one global world government. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is their goal. We see it in Bush recognizing the absurd ruling of the world court. What I am about to say may seem upsetting to some of you but here it goes anyway….TO HELL WITH THE WORLD COURT!!!!! That is where it belongs. Our veterans did not fight to put us under foreign rule. They fought to keep us free from it. What part of that do you socialist, globalists not understand?

    President Bush’s buddy, former President Fox of Mexico was on the “O’Reilly Factor” show on Oct, 9, 2007 and spewed out a blame America for everything diatribe. He blamed America for his country’s drug problem, for his country’s inability to stop illegal immigration to U.S.A. He compared the corruption in Mexico to American corruption and when pressed on his true world-view the former Mexican President made it clear that he wants a North American Union similar to the European Union. He is an enemy of our nation and how dare he come here and lecture us when most of his people in Mexico make under $4:00 per day and are subject to the intense corruption of his government. I have done much mission work in Mexico and I know firsthand that most Mexican people are dirt poor. How dare he? He dares because our own President, who swore to defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic, has himself become an enemy of it, along with the majority of Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate. The former Mexican president went on to call us who are against illegal immigration and amnesty, “xenophobes.” The race card was pulled out also by the present Mexican President Felipe Calderon when he said that the “Minute men” are racist because they do not want our southern border open to illegal aliens. So we who love our country, wish to defend it from invasion, desire to uphold our national independence, and believe that our veterans fought to keep us free from foreign rule are xenophobes, and racists? Well Mr. Fox and Mr. Calderon, call us what you will but we will not be deterred from protecting our beloved land from all enemies foreign and domestic. We will continue to fight for our rights as secured by the blood of our fathers who shed it for our freedom and our right to self government. We know the truth. We simply stand as Americans together to make known the true desires of our enemies and to uphold our sacred right to be One Nation under God.

    Dr. David M. Berman
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  2. 45nut

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    :eek: Bush is a Globalist?! Say it isn't so:D

    His old man was and he is too. Of course, I'd rather take my chances with him instead of Al and John!

    This next election looks rather bleak as well. I fear Thompson may not be able to beat the other moderate Republican pukes to get the nomination.:mad:
  3. Bruce FLinch

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    We be living in scary Times...:(
  4. I fear you are right, 45. Thompson is the only true conservative Republican running who has any real chance of getting the nomination, and I agree, it is very unlikely even he will be successful given the current political mindset of the Republican party.
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    AMEN!!!
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    Thanks for posting the article Marlin. I knew when I saw the title that I didn’t want to read it, as I might be let down even more by Bush.

    Well the good news is that I’m not, not that this is a good thing mind you.

    A new low for America.:mad:
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    Being a dye in the wool Conservative ( notice I didn't say Republican) I have never been as disappointed in a president since Jimmy Carter!!
  8. BobMcG

    BobMcG Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    To say the very least.

    As far as I'm concerned the country is going down the toilet and not a single candidate (from any party) that has a good chance of winning in 2008 is going to change that. I'm 52, have been voting since I turned 18 and for the first time in my voting life, I feel like I'm looking at a dead end road. I've never been so perplexed over what the heck I'm going to do come V-Day. I know full well that not voting isn't the right nor intelligent thing to do but I find the choices to be revolting and I'm not sure I can in good conscience pull the lever on any of them (primary or national elections). Yeah, there have been numerous times in the past when I found I was voting only for the lesser of two evils.... but I can't help but feel that between this year and next year that avenue of thought will be taken to a whole new level. I might have to take a barf bag into the voting booth with me, if I go in at all.

    I do plan on dumping my life long membership in the worthless Republican party and re-registering as a Conservative but that's the only step I know I'm taking at this point in time.
  9. I've considered changing my own to either Independent or Libertarian. The Republican party is going the same way the Democratic party did 60 years ago: to the left at a dead run.
  10. BobMcG

    BobMcG Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Going Independent is another consideration.
  11. Marlin

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    I have been a lifelong Republican and a part of the National Committee the last twenty-five years, as were my folks for sixty years prior to that. It is things like this that have totally messed up the party, RINOs in disguise. I thought George W would be better than his Dad, but I believe he is much worse.

    Things like this, to me, are flat out treasonous: trying to give sovereignty to the International Court, supporting the LOST treaty and, worst of all, the secret plans to merge the western hemisphere under one rule. Each and every one of these items amounts to TREASON, under our Constitution.

    You've heard it before but it is the TRU highway the Eastern establishment has been traveling for decades from Cabot Lodge to Robert Taft to Tom Dewey and now the Bush clan. You'd think we would all learn after a while, before its too late......
  12. They won't learn, Marlin. I too am a lifelong Republican, but these last 7 years have made me question that affiliation very deeply. Internationalism will destroy this Republic unless all good Americans speak up to prevent it. I like to believe there is still time, but if Hillary wins in '08, I think it will be all over but the shouting.
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    I am an Independent wirh strong libertarian views. I voted for Bush both times, and I do have a strong feeling that much more could have been done. With that stated what would the Democrats have done?
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    When i pre-registered i went libertarian. Couldn't see myself holding ties to a party i disagree with.
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    I changed my party affiliation a few years ago, when I renewed my DL. Hey, I was right there.

    I went Libertarian, NOT that I agree with all of their views, but they come a LOT closer than either of the 2 major parties do.........anymore.

    If I want to nit-pik, I can find flaws with ANY party. The problem these days is, it is getting hard to find any points I can agree with.

    I didn't vote for Bush either time, nor did I vote for the "other" major party candidate. I felt that neither would be good for this country, and one of them has proven this to be true.
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    I don't think there's a bit of difference in any of the parties anymore, their all a bunch of incompentent clowns. They're all on an ego trip and I think a retarded chimp on crack would be just as effective. Hillary couldn't even get her husband to keep his fly zipped up when he was in office, so what makes her think she can run the country, Obama has about as much experience as I do, the popular vote doesn't mean much either. None of them give a damn about the military vets after they use them up, burn them out, and then forget all the promises they made to them if they would enlist. The VA is the biggest joke on the planet. For the first time since I became old enough to vote I've about decided to pass on it. None of them do what they promise anyway. It's not a question of voting for the best candidate anymore, it's voting for who will do the least damage. OK, I'm done with my rant.
  17. firebird

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    And the Democratic party was the Republican party once upon a time in our history...
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    No wonder he vetoed a bill to expand children's health care...


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_on_go_co/war_costs

    Report Puts Hidden War Costs at $1.6T By JEANNINE AVERSA, AP Economics Writer
    Tue Nov 13, 6:21 PM ET


    The economic costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are estimated to total $1.6 trillion — roughly double the amount the White House has requested thus far, according to a new report by Democrats on Congress' Joint Economic Committee.

    The report, released Tuesday, attempted to put a price tag on the two conflicts, including "hidden" costs such as interest payments on the money borrowed to pay for the wars, lost investment, the expense of long-term health care for injured veterans and the cost of oil market disruptions.

    The $1.6 trillion figure, for the period from 2002 to 2008, translates into a cost of $20,900 for a family of four, the report said. The Bush administration has requested $804 billion for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined, the report stated.

    For the Iraq war only, total economic costs were estimated at $1.3 trillion for the period from 2002 to 2008. That would cost a family of four $16,500, the report said.

    Future economic costs would be even greater. The report estimated that both wars would cost $3.5 trillion between 2003 and 2017. Under that scenario, it would cost a family of four $46,400, the report said.

    The report, from the committee's Democratic majority, was not vetted with Republican members. Democratic leaders in Congress, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., seized on the report to criticize Bush's war strategy. The White House countered that the report was politically motivated.

    "This report was put out by Democrats on Capitol Hill. This committee is known for being partisan and political. They did not consult or cooperate with the Republicans on the committee. And so I think it is an attempt to muddy the waters on what has been some positive developments being reported out of Iraq," said White House press secretary Dana Perino. "I haven't seen the report, but it's obvious the motivations behind it."

    The report comes as the House and Senate planned to vote this week on another effort by Democrats to set a deadline for withdrawing troops from Iraq as a condition for providing another $50 billion for the war.

    Reid said the report "is another reminder of how President Bush's stubborn refusal to change course in Iraq and congressional Republicans' willingness to rubber stamp his failed strategy — has real consequences at home for all Americans."

    Perino, while acknowledging the dangers in Iraq, defended Bush's stance.

    "Obviously it remains a dangerous situation in Iraq. But the reduction in violence, the increased economic capacity of the country, as well as, hopefully, some continued political reconciliation that is moving from the bottom up, is a positive trend and one that we — well, it's positive and we hope it is a trend that will take hold," Perino said.

    Israel Klein, spokesman for the Joint Economic Committee, took issue with the White House's characterization of the panel's report.

    "Instead of dealing with the substance of this report, the White House is once again trying to deflect attention away from the blistering costs of this war in Iraq," Klein said. "This report uses the nonpartisan CBO (Congressional Budget Office) budget estimates and was prepared by the JEC's professional economists using the same process this committee has always used, regardless of which party is in the majority."

    However, the committee's top-ranking Republican members — Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas and Rep. Jim Saxton of New Jersey — called on the Democratic leadership to "withdraw this defective report." A joint statement from the two Republican lawmakers said the report is a "thinly veiled exercise in political hyperbole masquerading as academic research."

    White House Budget Director Jim Nussle accused Democrats of "trying to distort reality for political gain."

    Oil prices have surged since the start of the war, from about $37 a barrel to well over $90 a barrel in recent weeks, the report said. "Consistent disruptions from the war have affected oil prices," although the Iraq war is not responsible for all of the increase in oil prices, the report said.

    Still, the report estimated that high oil prices have hit U.S. consumers in the pocket, transferring "approximately $124 billion from U.S. oil consumers to foreign (oil) producers" from 2003 to 2008, the report said.

    High oil prices can slow overall economic growth if that chills spending and investment by consumers and businesses. At the same time, high oil prices can spread inflation throughout the economy if companies decide to boost the prices of many other goods and services.

    Meanwhile, "the sum of interest paid on Iraq-related debt from 2003 to 2017 will total over $550 billion," the report said. The government has to make interest payments on the money it borrows to finance the national debt, which recently hit $9 trillion for the first time.

    The report was obtained by The Associated Press before its release. An earlier draft of the report, which also had been obtained by The AP, had put the economic cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars slightly lower, at $1.5 trillion.

    "What this report makes crystal clear," said Joint Economic Committee Chairman Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., "is that the cost to our country in lives lost and dollars spent is tragically unacceptable." Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., the panel's vice chair, said of the Iraq war: "By every measure, this war has cost Americans far too much."
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    I too have reservations about the republicans but seem the alternative is worse.as for oil!!since we dont get oil from Irag where is the price increase coming from."the stock market"oil futures go on the stock market and are bid on.thats where the price comes from.nationalize the oil industry and use the nation to make firm bids.a stable Irag could be a buffer in the middle east as Isreal is now.:rolleyes::)
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