TZ-75 9mm and 41AE

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by bakerconch, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. bakerconch

    bakerconch New Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    North Florida
    Picked this up at an estate sale last Sat. I can find a couple for sale, mostly
    9mm but none with both barrels. This gun seems to have never been fired. Looks NIB.
  2. armoredman

    armoredman Active Member

    Nifty! I wanted the 41AE when it was announced, seemed like the answer everyone was looking for...and then the 40SW came out and 41 AE drifted off. You'll probably have to reload the cartridge to shoot it, I think maybe Norma or Old Western Scrounger might have factory ammo at ridiculous prices.
    The pistol is a Tanfoglio, made in Italy, a CZ-75 clone, and a good solid sidearm. It's not very collectible, but it's a very nice pistol. Come over to and post in our Clone Club section, probably people there who know more about it than I do. :)

  3. armoredman

    armoredman Active Member

    Tale that back, Norma doesn't make handgun ammo anymore and even OWS doesn't list any 41AE for sale. :(
  4. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2003
    Hesperia, CA

    I bought a TZ-75 in the mid 1980's when it was imported by FIE (out of business today). It was indeed a Tanfoglio, made in Italy, and a CZ75 clone. At the time you could not buy a CZ in the USA due to the fact that CZ's were made behind the Iron Curtain. Still later EAA became the importer/distributor for Tanfoglio and the Witness's are that gun today.

    My 1980's TZ was a bit crude showing poor polishing techniques used by the polisher with a pretty wavy surface. The ejection was weird a s the empties ended up are inches from your shoes in a neat pile (not very energetic ejection!). But worse yet was that the slide somehow destroyed itself and FIE was by then out of business and EAA was not yet in business. No parts were available. The cut in the rear of the slide for the firing pin retainer plate was broken through so that the firing pin could no longer be retained. I think there was something wrong with the metallurgy of the slide and who knows what else on this inexpensive gun. It flat was not worth repairing even if I could find a replacement slide. I parted out the internals (they will fit a real CZ) and gave the slide and barrel to the local sheriff for correct disposal.

    Having said that, in the 1990's I bought a EAA Witness in 45ACP (CZ97 clone). It has turned out to be a pretty nice gun. When the Iron Curtain raised post 1997 and CZ was able to import to the USA, I bought a CZ97B in 45ACP because I just had to have the real thing. I have shot the two guns side by side and the new Tanfoglio, imported by EAA as a Witness, is a match for the CZ, as best I can tell. But others who report here give both good and bad marks to the Witness guns in general so it must be the luck of the draw as to whether your Witness is excellent or has problems. Fortunately my Witness is in the former category.

    If the TZ you acquired is not marked as an EAA import then its quality may be at issue. Even if it is a EAA import you may have a good one or a bad one. It all depends on how lucky you were.

    Last edited: Jun 12, 2012