Understanding your enemy

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  1. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Your enemy did not grow up like you. He did not play baseball, he did not watch Roy Rogers and the Beaver, he did not eat rost beef and potatoes. He did not have a mother and father like you did. Because a person simply walks along side you does not mean he is one of you. Your enemy is hell bent on doing what every it takes to destroy you and lie to your face while he is doing it. His ends justify the means. This is anit Christian. Wealth is not the only factor in his motivation. Power to control you, what you say, what you do, what you eat, when you die, gives him the biggest erection ever achieved my man. Yes that was crude buy you need to really understand your enemy. He ate dog, His parents were commies, his mama was white and his dad was coal black, there was striff in the family, one of his family members was taken by the British military. He hates the UK. He was taught to hate us. He is no different than anyone else on the outside looking in and hating us for what we have accomplished. We have accomplished the greatest standard of living becasue we have kept the govt out of our hair. He is here to change that. He would rather change this world and turn it into a cesspool than to join us and be fruitfull. He hates you and he is angry with you and he desires to control you, that is his motivation. It's not all about the money.


    Saul Alinsky and the Lessons He Taught Bill and Hillary

    News/Current Events Opinion (Published)
    Author: Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky Courtesy the Wanderer
    Posted on 03/23/2000 16:22:25 PST by Slyfox

    Saul Alinsky wrote two books outlining his organizational principles and strategies: Reveille for Radicals (1946) and Rules for Radicals (1971).

    Rules for Radicals opens with a quote about Lucifer, written by Saul Alinsky: "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."

    In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky says: "Here I propose to present an arrangement of certain facts and general concepts of change, a step toward a science of revolution." He builds on the tactical principles of Machiavelli: "The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-nots on how to take it away."

    Rules for Radicals is concerned with the acquisition of power: "my aim here is to suggest how to organize for power: how to get it and how ot use it." This is not to be done with assistance to the poor, nor even by organizing the poor to demand assistance: "...[E]ven if all the low-income parts of our population were organized ... it would not be powerful enough to get significant, basic, needed changes."

    Alinsky advises the organizer to target the middle class, rather than the poor: "Organization for action will now and in the decade ahead center upon America's white middle class. That is where the power is."

    Alinsky is interested in the middle class solely for its usefulness: "Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the values and the way of life of the middle class. They have stigmatized it as materialistic, decadent, bourgeois, degenerate, imperialistic, war-mongering, brutalized and corrupt. They are right; but we must begin from where we are if we are to build power for change, and the power and the people are in the middle class majority."

    To accomplish this, Alinsky writes that the organizer must "begin to dissect and examine that way of life [the middle class lifestyle] ... He will know that 'square' is no longer to be dismissed as such -- instead his own approach must be 'square' enough to get the action started."

    Rules for Radicals defends belief that the end justifies the means: "to say that corrupt the ends," writes Alinsky, "is to believe in the immaculate conception of ends and principles ... the practical revolutionary will understand ... [that] in action, one does not always enjoy the luxury of a decision that is consistent both with one's individual conscience and the good of mankind."

    Altogether, Alinsky provides eleven rules of the ethics of means and ends. They are morally relativistic:

    "The practical revolutionary will understand Goethe's 'conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action'; in action, one does not always enjoy the luxury of a decision that is consistent both with one's individual conscience and the good of mankind."

    "The second rule of the ethics of the means and ends is that the judgment of the ethics of means is dependent on the political position of those sitting in judgment." Alinsky elaborates his meaning on this point, saying that if you were a member of the underground Resistance, "... then you adopted the means of assassination, terror, property destruction, the bombing of tunnels and trains, kidnapping, and the willingness to sacrifice innocent hostages to the end of defeating the Nazi's. Those who opposed the Nazi's conquerors regarded the Resistance as a secret army of selfless, patriotic idealists ...." Rules for Radicals is therefore concerned with how to win. "...n such a conflict, neither protagonist is concerned with any value except victory."

    "The third rule of the ethics of means and ends is that in war the ends justifies almost any means."

    "There can be no such thing as a successful traitor, for if one succeeds, he becomes a founding father."

    Rules for Radicals teaches the organizer that he must give a moral appearance (as opposed to behaving morally): "All effective action requires the passport of morality."

    The tenth rule of the ethics of means and ends states "that you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments ... Moral rationalization is indispensable at all times of action whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means."

    Rules for Radicals provides the organizer with a tactical style for community organization that assumes an adversarial relationship between groups of people in which one either dominates or is dominated.

    "The first rule of power tactics is: power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."

    "Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat."

    "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this. They can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

    Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

    "The threat is generally more terrifying than the thing itself."

    "In a fight almost anything goes. It almost reaches the point where you stop to apologize if a chance blow lands above the belt."

    "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

    One of the criteria for picking the target is the target's vulnerability ... the other important point in the choosing of a target is that it must be a personification, not something general and abstract."

    "The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength."

    Saul Alinsky urged the active and deliberate "conscious-raising" of people through the technique of "popular education." Popular education is a method by which an organizer leads people to a class-based interpretation of their grievances, and to accept the organizer's systemic solutions to address those grievances. "Through the People's Organization these groups [of citizens] discover that what they considered primarily their individual problem is also the problem of others, and furthermore the only hope for solving an issue of titanic proportions is by pooling all their efforts and strengths. That appreciation and conclusion is an educational process."

    Rules for Radicals stresses organizational power-collecting: "The ego of the organizer is stronger and more monumental than the ego of the leader. The organizer is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which a man can reach -- to create, to be a 'great creator', to play God." Alinsky considered Hillary a terrific "organizer" and wanted her to become his protege. She declined. She had bigger fish to fry. She learned her lessons well. She and Bill have employed Alinsky's tactics probably better than anyone else.
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  2. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    and alinsky held obozo's first presidential candidate fund raiser in his house with "friends"

    or was that congressional candidate ?
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2012
  3. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Once you understand this enemy you will see there is no negotiations on the table for your freedoms.
  4. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    Knowing who one's enemies are, over little time, isn't difficult.
    It's the pretenders, in sheep's clothing, that make life difficult.

    Barking dogs never have any teeth. I've never heard of anyone being gummed to death.

    It's the...I'm here to help you,...for no apparent reason...,folks that worry me.
    Alinsky and Soros. They quietly do all their work through surrogates. Surrogates that would go to prison, or die for them, before 'coming out' against them.

    Money isn't buying that type of loyalty. It can't be bought. It's a belief that they are actually saving the world from itself, that keeps them waking up every day, knowing in their heart, they have done something good for all of humanity.

    Defeating that type of mentality isn't possible. It's their faith/religious duty.

    The light at the end of the tunnel for all of us, is strength in numbers. We either believe in ourselves, or not. Simple enough choice.
  5. Marlin T

    Marlin T Well-Known Member

    Jul 8, 2005
    New Mexico
    That is what I was going to say.
    These books and the people that wrote them along with card carrying communists mean more to Obomba than the Constitution does.

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