Vietnam Photographs

Discussion in 'Vietnam Memories Photo Album' started by Riverrat1969, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. Riverrat1969

    Riverrat1969 New Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    Eastern Virginia
    I just joined this group. Looking through the posts, and checking out the Vietnam photos, made me wonder, so I'll post my thought out here, for everyone.

    I'm one of the moderators for a Vietnam riverine group, and almost all of us were US Army, not Navy, so most of us knew each other, or know guys that can verify the other 'wannabe's' in the group. I noticed that time and again, someone would write about an incident, then add, "but my photos were destroyed by my first wife", or, "my girlfriend burned everything I had from 'Nam" or some other variation of that theme.

    In our particular group, at least 80% of more of the men have had rabid/crazy/po'ed/mad-as-hell wife/girl friends either tear-up/cut-up/burn/ or throw away their Vietnam photos.

    I would be interested in an informal poll of this group; how many of you have had the psychotic split tails destroy your stuff?
  2. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    Not VN and not US, (Oz) , but had one after i came back from Sinai got the pic's on thursday she did all them and all my IET pics and others on the saterday .. i did not need them i had her i was told , i ran ... transferred from Woodside to Townsville ( 2000 k's) and never looked back , scarey .. a few mates this side have had the same , i think any percentage of population you get nutters male female etc but it is a female trait of one brand of nutter .. maybe its the same like women choose poison or knives rather than guns .. ?? dunno eh .. lost some in a bush fire a few years back too but had most of them digitally by then too

    BACK UP !! and be careful who you date , never give a nutter a even break ;)

  3. Riverrat1969

    Riverrat1969 New Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    Eastern Virginia
  4. 199er

    199er New Member

    May 5, 2010
    Columbia SC
    I didn't have the psychotic female experience when I returned fom VN but I did seem to have an inordinate amount of 'first dates'. Seems when they found out I was a VN Vet, they suddenly became 'unavailable'........................until I met my wife. Been married 37
    years to her and I attribute that milestone to her patience and understanding in dealing with my 'adjustment' struggles.
  5. Snakedriver

    Snakedriver Active Member

    Mar 4, 2009
    SW. Florida
    Like many guys, I've had an ex that was nuttier than squirrel turds, but she was not so crazy as to destroy any of my cherished photo memories. My guess is that when someone claims that their photos were all destroyed, there is probably at least one hole in their story that they are afraid photos will reveal. The ones who claim to have been snipers were probably cooks in the mess hall. Even worse, many may have never served at all.
  6. rooter

    rooter *VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff* Supporting Member

    Jan 31, 2001
    Glendale Arizona
    A month or so ago I was at the eye doctors office...There was this older fellow about 55/60 who come in...His cap identified him as being a marine vet so I began a conversation with him...Marines and Seabees serve together so often, what's not to know....I truly believe it was one of those things that someone had given the cap to him and he was claiming to be something he was not....I didn't hard-ass him about it and I remarked, "WERE YOU ONE OF THOSE BLACK-OPS GUYS THAT IF YOU TOLD ME, YOU'D HAVE TO KILL ME".....? About then the optical tech called me in to check the shingles I have in my eye...Isn't it kinda like having played cowboys and indians when you were kids? Chief
  7. armabill

    armabill Member

    Sep 2, 2002
    Glenolden, Pa.
    I still have all of my photos from 'Nam.

    USMC Div. Recon 1965
  8. ofitg

    ofitg Active Member

    Feb 25, 2010
    A lot of the photos from my time in Phnom Penh were lost - but not by a crazy girlfriend - when I returned stateside, my CO asked to borrow them for a unit history book. He died in a plane crash soon after that, and I didn't want to ask his widow about the photos.
  9. Riverrat1969

    Riverrat1969 New Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    Eastern Virginia
    Lots of replies. 199er, I hear you. It took me two tries, but on the second marriage, I got me a good one. Snakedriver......."nuttier than squirrel turds", a perfect description of some people.

    The guys in our group without photos are all guys we knew served in our unit. The only guy we ferretted out was only partially a liar. He was a USN PBR crewman; (we let Navy guys join too, but not many do), but he "cut a wide swath", and sounded like a phony to many of us. He claimed to be in the Navy 4 years, then finished out his military career in the Army, as a helo pilot.

    For any of you having doubts about another veterans status, the folks at the POW Network do an outstanding job of locating records to establish anyones status in the military. They work for free, but accept donations......strictly a Mom & Pop operation.

    I sent copies of the more "John Wayne" slanted tales from this guy to the POW network, and they too, thought they rang untrue. Four days later, I had the guys records in my hand. He had been in a PBR unit in RVN, but had lied about being a rotary wing pilot in the Army......he had zero flight hours, not even as a crewman.

    When confronted with the facts, the guy went ballistic, threatening to sue me, and to sue the site "owner" of our group, then he quit......that was the last we heard from him.

    I hope this post doesn't get put into another Forum for being off-topic, but according to a piece I read recently, that seven out of eight Vietnam veterans today are bogus phonies. Everyone in this group.......whether you're a veteran or not, should strive to expose those that stand on the backs of dead men, to pump up their deflated egos.

    ofitg, that's terrible......but at least it wasn't you onboard that aircraft.

    Current score: Crazies 1 Fate 1 Vets 5
  10. Snakedriver

    Snakedriver Active Member

    Mar 4, 2009
    SW. Florida
    I was introduced to a guy that was dating a lady friend of mine who had told her he was a helo pilot in Vietnam, but after a few minutes of conversation it was clear he hadn't ever been to flight school. He said he couldn't remember his flight school class number. Yeah right, that's something no one ever forgets.

    My guess from what he DID know was that he was in helicopter maintenance rather than flying them. Yes there are plenty of wannabe's around. His job was an admirable one, I don't understand why he felt he needed to inflate his status? :confused:

    I was kind and didn't expose him to my friend. She figured out what kind of guy he was on her own. ;)
  11. Riverrat1969

    Riverrat1969 New Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    Eastern Virginia
    Snakedriver, here's a "I'll be damned" story for you. One of the guys in our group had been a crewman on a mikeboat in Vietnam, in the Navy, not the Army. He grew up in New York state, along with a friend of his that had been one of the youngest Cobra pilots in RVN, Don?....don't remember his last name. Don also joined our group, and I mentioned running from My Tho north towards Tan An, with an escort of two Cobras and a Loach.

    I mentioned that I would never forget the gonads of the Loach pilot. A short way in to the canal, the Loach found an opening in the trees along the canal bank, and flew under the canopy of the trees, for at least 100 yards or more, trying to draw fire! I couldn't believe what I was seeing. The Loach pilot came up on our radio, saying, "hey boat.....if the shooting starts, don't fire those fifties over this way." The epitany of calm.

    I suppose you may have seen similar flying.......maybe done that yourself, but that incident was branded onto my memory forever. When I mentioned that to Don, he said he had been flying one of the two Cobras over us that day.......that was in late 1969. A tip of the hat to you Sir. You, and others like you, sure made life safer for the rest of us on the ground and water. Thank you.
  12. Snakedriver

    Snakedriver Active Member

    Mar 4, 2009
    SW. Florida
    Riverrat, yeah, I was one of those guys who went through the Army's High School to Flight School Warrant Officer Program. I was barely 19 y.o. when I graduated from flight school. I didn't turn 20 y.o. until I was almost half way through my tour in Vietnam. Interesting work for a wet behind the ears kid.

    I was in the Aerial Artillery when I was down south in III Corp.. While I was also in I Corp & II Corp I never really got to to much of IV Corp. We did escort a couple of river convoys of supplies up the Mekong to Phnom Penh a couple of times with the Navy PBR's in 1972 though. I did the Air Cav. Pink Team mission, like you mentioned, up in Pleiku later on in my tour after the 1st Cav. went home and I was reassigned to the 1st Avn. Bde. & the 17th Cav..

    Thanks for the praise, we did what we could to keep everybody safe.
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2010
  13. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    Akron, Ohio
    Unfortunately the few photos I did have were lost somewhere along the way. I have only several saved on my computer. I never did have the most memorable shots I'd taken. They were destroyed before i could get them printed. Lost several good 35mm cameras. The Nam sometimes just wasn't conducive to much amateur photography.
  14. Snakedriver

    Snakedriver Active Member

    Mar 4, 2009
    SW. Florida

    I have the originals of my photos, but God knows where the negatives are located. The negatives I do have handy on old 35mm film have started to deteriorate and have turned blue. My attempts to have them restored were not successful. Even the old color prints I have are starting to fade some. :(

    Thank goodness many of the old originals have been scanned and are saved in digital form now.
  15. Riverrat1969

    Riverrat1969 New Member

    Dec 4, 2010
    Eastern Virginia
    Snakedriver, young guys will take more chances than older men. Like you, I was 19 when driving a boat; I turned 20 seven months into my tour.

    For younger members in this group that do not remember, it was perfectly legal for folks to buy mailorder firearms.....there were no licensing requirements at all. Most boys owned firearms, and (at least in Tidewater, VA) you could walk into any 7-11 store, and buy 12 gauge shotgun shells or .22 rimfire ammo. As kids grew into teens, we'd take our rifles/shotguns to school in the trunk of our cars, so we could go straight from school to crazy historionics from school principles about carrying firearms to school.

    I joined the Army in September 1968, and was kept too busy to hear what our politicians were doing.......enacting the Gun Control Law of 1968 (November ?). Basic at Fort Benning, GA, AIT at Fort Eustis, 30 day leave, then off to RVN.

    When I returned to CONUS, one of the first things I did was to go to Bob's Gun Shop, in Norfolk, VA, to buy some ammo. There was a young Marine E-3 in his uniform in line ahead of me, that had also just returned from 'Nam.

    We came close to getting the police called on us, when the guy behind the counter refused to sell us any ammo, because we were not 21 years old. The Marine went ballistic, and started yelling, while he put his hand up, "I got my blankety finger shot off in Vietnam, and you won't sell me any ammunition!?" I got the guy calmed down, and we both left, at the clerks request.

    What a shock; from kids able to buy mailorder rifles, then 'Nam, then being denied just buying ammo! Things had turned upside down, in a short time.
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