Want to sell a pistol but don't know value

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  1. wonderwhippet

    wonderwhippet Active Member

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    I have a pistol which doesn't fit in with what I like to collect, and am going to put it up for sale, but have no idea of what to ask. It is a Colt New service in .45 LC caliber. bore is excellent, and it's a nice tight gun, lanyard ring is fine, but it has a very old reblue which has removed the markings from the frame including the rampant Colt. Grips are the beautiful old carved and checkered type with medallion and are in excellent shape with no chips or cracks. Serial number is 146xxx, which I believe denotes 1918 production. It comes with a magnificent Audley holster stamped Patent Oct. 13, 1914 in near perfect condition. This holster has a spring catch which retains the pistol firmy until it is depressed. I know it has lost its collector value, but what is a shooter like this worth? As used to be the custom many years ago, someone must have taken a gun in excellent condition and had it reblued.

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  2. gpostal

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    how long is the barrel ? 7.5 ?
  3. wonderwhippet

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    New Service

    Barrel length is 7 1/2".
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    Forgot to mention that the barrel markings are all intact.
  5. inplanotx

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    Well, according to my old blue book, the original New Service Model was not made in 7 1/2" except in .357 and .38 special. All other calibers were 4, 5 or 6".

    The 1917 C/CM was made in 45 ACP and 5 1/2" bbl.

    The one your piece fits into is tbe 1917 Civilian/Commercial (Piece Parts Model) and was made with a 4 1/2 or 5 1/2" barrel. Serial number range was 336,450 to 337,500. So your serial is out of range too.

    It may be that someone made his own piece pistol and that is what you have. I'm not sure so maybe someone else can chime in here and help out.

    What is the last patent date on the gun?

    One other piece of info the book stated is that the gun wore hard rubber grips until the late 20's with later guns having checkered walnut with medallion. Gun was manufactured from 1898 - 1942.
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    Last patent date is July 4, 1905. Barrel also says "NEW SERVICE COLT 45".
  7. Smokin Guns

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    wonderwhippet, This is what "Guntrader" says...


    "Colt" New Service DA Revolver
    Calibers: 38 special, 357 magnum, 38-40, 44-40, 44 Russian, 44 Special, 45 auto, 45 Colt, 450 eley, 455 eley, 6 shot cylinder, Bbl lengths 4.5, 5.5 and 6 inch in 38 special and 357 magnum, 4.5, 5.5 and
    ..., Fixed sights, Blued or Nickel finish. Checkered Walnut Grips...Same as Plano says MFG. 1898-42, the book has a picture of what appears to be your pistol...sounds like a "Commercial Model" they list the value at:


    Good: $881.00
    Excellent: $1295.00

    Hope this helps some... ;)
  8. Xracer

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    Looks like what you have is the New Service Improved Model, which was made in .45 Colt with 7.5" barrel. The serial range ran from 21000 to 325000.

    According to the Blue Book:

    "....4, 5, 6 in. barrels in .357 Mag. and 38 Spl., 4 1/2, 5 1/2, and 7 1/2 barrel in all others, blue or nickel finish, bright blue finish was used through circa 1916, originally hard rubber (until approx. late ' 20s) with later guns having walnut grips with medallions. Mfg. 1898-1942."

    Too bad about the reblue. If original, your gun would be in the $900 to $1200 range. With the reblue, I would guess it would be worth about half of that....say $450-600. I have no idea what the holster would bring.

    I think you'd probably get your best price by putting it up for auction.
  9. wonderwhippet

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    Thanks to all for the very useful information. I guess I will be putting it up for auction and hope for the best.
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    ...No problem we're all here to help!...[​IMG]
  11. gpostal

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    i thought it was the 7.5 barrel when i saw it

    x hit it on the head with the price

    to bad it isn't original finnish
  12. wuzzagrunt

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    X is correct on the value but to my thinking, it's worth a heck of a lot more--as a shooter--than that. Unfortunately, the market won't support much more than that, pricewise. If it was my gun and I couldn't find some poor sap who absolutely MUST HAVE THAT GUN, I'd keep it and shoot the heck outta it. It's a beautiful piece and they aren't making any more of them.
  13. Xracer

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    Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet!
    I've gotta agree with ya Grunt. If it were mine, I'd sure keep it, but it isn't.....sooooo.....all we can do is our best to help a fellow TFF member get the best price for it.
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