what happened to the 1911?

Discussion in 'The 1911 Forum' started by dbltap, Sep 10, 2008.

  1. dbltap

    dbltap New Member

    Apr 1, 2007
    Hey there,

    What happened to the 1911 pistols after the military adopted the 9mm side arm?

  2. Shooter45

    Shooter45 *Administrator* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2001
    Here at TFF
    Bill Clinton had most of them destroyed. I guess he didn't know they are so easy to rebuild thus saving the Military millions of dollars. But hey, it's only money. :mad:

  3. berto64

    berto64 Active Member

    Yea, It's only "our" money.
  4. Yup. Besides, Clinton was far more interested in his pages than in anything that might save the taxpayers money.
  5. redhart

    redhart New Member

    Aug 9, 2008
    east coast
    Marines kept a few, and put them to work in Iraq, because of feedback they gave thier CO's on the 9mm not stopping the bad guys, Seal teams also have them, Semper Fi
  6. bobkk

    bobkk Member

    Oct 1, 2006
    E Tn.
    Now a lot of units in the military are buying new ones. Should have
    kept the old ones. 9mm is OK but not with military hard ball. It's
    not a declared war so why not let our GI's carry good ammo.
  7. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    Declared war has nothing to do with it. We were not a signatory to the Hague Convention, so we are not bound by its requirements. We can use poison gas, or hollowpoint ammo. We just - don't.
  8. Shoulda, coulda, woulda.............Modern war is steered by many things. Law is a big one. There are many things that could be done but are not. Commanders must publish their orders and only a fool would take his command too far into the "gray area". But there are loopholes to everything; what one organization can't be associated with doing, a different organization/s can get a green light.

    Anyway, hollowpoint ammo for military purposes is not necessary. Penetration, in almost all situations, is very desirable.

    As for the 1911....saying this or that organization is buying 1911's isn't saying much. The original 1911 guys, the "the 1911 is the only pistol"
    guys, the last ones to have the telltale mark of service on the web of the hand have mostly retired.

    Many organizations are buying Sig, H&K, Glock etc etc etc too that also buy/rebuilt 1911's also. Since 9/11 I've almost seen the sidearm thing go double full circle.
  9. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

    ......as have the "old timers" with the mashed and flattened "M1 Thumb"! :D
  10. Spent a lot of time behind the sights of an M1. NEVER smashed my thumb.
  11. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    Ain't got no M1 thumb, but I do have the 1911/Browning Hi Power hammer bite scar, and the PPK slide slice scar, and the "don't put your left thumb up there" thumb knuckle scar.
  12. Macmac

    Macmac New Member

    Nov 13, 2008
    New Hampster USA
    The other part of the story will KILL you guys..

    One day a nice Police officer showed up in my door yard. This is rural living, and I was known to be a shooter.

    Well the nice officer had come to see if I was interested in a deal, and I was.

    The deal was the NRA bought up as many of these WW-2 era Guns that all went to other world problems since, some times getting re-built and sometimes not.

    The NRA deal was a Police Dept MUST purchase 3 guns minimum. In the town of Dinkweed, the Chief wasn't interested, which left the other 2 officers sort of holding something not a gun in their hands and drooling over the choices.

    The Choices were Colt, of course, but also Union & Switch, Singer the one that Kills me, Remington Rand (the one I chose) and others..

    At the time the Colt was the top shelf, while you bought these guns sight unseen, and were supposed to be a police officer which i wasn't, and never have been. But I made the 3 from the 2...

    The rand was about 4th down on the list, and if i recall cost me $125.00 bux... The ones above that were apx 5 bucks each more, and down from that Rand 5 bucks less.. I chose the rand because it was in the middle.

    So while you guys all choke on this, you can bank on I am too.

    BTW am new here... Just call me Mac...
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2008
  13. ehughes

    ehughes New Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    The Seabees carry 'em, they also still carry the M-14...and it works...well.

    As a good friend of mine once said "The turban comes off about the same time as most of the upper head area."

    Both guns work effectively, more so than the 5.56/9mm platforms, yet they're being phased out.
  14. Silver72

    Silver72 Member

    Nov 5, 2005
    Central Texas
    NRA marked 1911A1 guns were sold to members......Singer only produced 800 so none were NRA marked. The arsenals sold left over .45s for as little as $12.50...later the price escalated to $17.50. Some were new, never issued guns and a lot were used...some rebuilt and marked with the arsenal that did the work.
    Three of my collection.

    Last edited: Nov 14, 2008
  15. Macmac

    Macmac New Member

    Nov 13, 2008
    New Hampster USA
    Silver72, Did you buy and install old like grips? The Remington Rand I bought came with new wood grips and a NRA logo medalion.

    I won't insist I saw Singer listed, but I think I did.. 1984/5 or so was long ago and I can't really trust I had oj for breakfast yesterday.

    The rand I got wasn't very pretty, but it functions like a clock. I see no other markings as being rebuilt from any armory either. The only markings mine has is what is right for late war WW-2.

    I assumed mine was in any and every other police and war action untill dumped by the Govt.. I have no way to prove other wise. SO your post causes me to wonder if my Rand was put into retirement right after the war?

    The barrel in mine says Colt, and I took that to mean it had been re-barreled while still in the hands of the Mil. I don't know if any new marking would have taken place for that or not. I am not sure what barrel would be 'correct' for a Rand in the first place.

    Mine is pretty well worn as to the finish. A lot of parker is worn off, typical holster wear. I bought the right plastic grips and have them in a box still because they have the in pencil markings still on them.
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