What is a Flechette?

Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by ryan42, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. ryan42

    ryan42 New Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    marion indiana
    I might of spelled it wrong,I was watching NCIS and Ducky had a guy in the morgue with all these things stuck in him and he said he was 4ft away when the gun went off they were about 1 inch long black pointy things.
     
  2. ShawnDow

    ShawnDow Member

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    Jun 17, 2012
    Tawas City, Michigan
    They are small steel darts.... about 1 inch long... i suppose they were to be used in shot gun loads. Cool in concept, and probably had a practical use, but i don't think you can get them in a "loaded" round.
     

  3. bobski

    bobski Former Guest

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    Jan 16, 2005
    va., conn., & mo.
    yep. a nasty special weapon.
     
  4. ryan42

    ryan42 New Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    marion indiana
    Ok they do look nasty.
     
  5. bobski

    bobski Former Guest

    946
    Jan 16, 2005
    va., conn., & mo.
    theres a lot of special rounds for shotguns.
    too many to list.
    my favorite are tracers and flock boomers. (flash bang!)
     
  6. joncutt87

    joncutt87 Active Member

    May 24, 2011
    Kannapolis, NC
    Cheaper then dirt sells them by the pound (950 pieces). I did find a specialty ammo company that loaded shot gun shells with them for "upland bird hunting in dense brush"
     
  7. bluesea112

    bluesea112 Active Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    West, TX
    Flechettes were created during Vietnam by a special weapons group within the army. One of the guys assigned to that group used to work for me, so he was very well versed on the subject of Flechette. He said they found them to be extremely effective, because they would easily penetrate body armor when fired from a shotgun, and vehicle armor when delivered as the payload from a high velocity rocket. Their small size allowed thousands of them to be packed into rocket payloads. He said they were never put into service because the brass was concerned that they would violate some treaty by being to destructive to the human body.

    To answer your question about what they are, they are small steel darts with a shaft about the diameter of a pencil lead. They are ground to a point on one end and have 4 steel vanes molded on the opposite end. Total length of each dart is about 1 1/2" - 2". They look like a miniature arrow. They are currently sold in bulk by the pound to be hand loaded into shotgun shells. As Joncutt stated, you can buy them from Cheaper than Dirt.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2012
  8. howlnmad

    howlnmad Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Nov 26, 2008
    Harriman, Tn
    Yep, tiny steel darts.
     
  9. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    I see these flechette rounds for shot guns, at the gun shows form time to time. I bought some once to see what they would do, and I was not impressed when shooting them into a piece of plywood. If you used them for SD you would most probably end up in jail.
     
  10. DixieLandMan

    DixieLandMan Member

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    Oct 18, 2011
    Alabama
    Like others have said before, they are tiny steel darts. Used in Vietnam mainly and was they were very effective. A buddy of mine told me about firing them from tanks.
     
  11. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    They also made a hollow flechette that would carry posion.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flechette

    After work by Johns Hopkins University in the 1950s there was a concept for Direct Injection Antipersonnel Chemical Biological Agent (DIACBA) where flechettes were grooved, hollow pointed, or otherwise milled to retain a quantity of chemical biological warfare agent to deliver through a ballistic wound.[1] The initial work was with VX, but found that it had to be thickened for the flechette to deliver a reliable dose. Eventually this was replaced by a particulate carbamate. The US Biological Program also had a microflechette to deliver either botulinum toxin A or saxitoxin, the M1 Biodart, which resembled a 7.62 mm rifle cartridge.
     
  12. Ledslnger

    Ledslnger New Member

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    Dec 12, 2011
    IA/IL
    Yep, they are nasty. Supposedly would go against the Geneva Convention and were deemed inhumane to be used in Vietnam for that reason. Me, I think anyone that tortures our POWs or cuts off prisoners heads with swords, etc. deserves whatever weapon we can find to use against them. I would still be using them and napalm against whoever stepped across the line.
     
  13. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    The add for antipersonnel .net claims a maximum effective range of 300 meters from a 12 gauge.
    I'll throw the B.S. flag on that one.