What this election is about.

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  1. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

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    The United States of America is on a path of destruction and will fall as did Sodom and Gomorrah if we allow it.

    Three angels visited Abraham, God's hand-picked founder of his chosen nation, Israel. They came disguised as men, travelers along the road. Two of them went down to Sodom and Gomorrah, to observe firsthand the wickedness in those cities.

    The other visitor, who was the Lord, stayed behind. He revealed to Abraham that he was going to destroy the cities because of the evil ways of their people. Abraham, a special friend of the Lord, began to bargain with God to spare the cities if there were righteous people in them.

    First Abraham asked if the Lord would spare the cities if fifty righteous people lived there. The Lord said yes. Boldly, Abraham kept bargaining down, until God agreed not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah if even ten righteous people lived there. Then the Lord departed.

    When the two angels arrived at Sodom that evening, Abraham's nephew Lot met them at the city gate. Lot and his family lived in Sodom. He took the two men to his home and fed them.

    Then all the men of the city surrounded Lot's house and said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." (Genesis 19:5, NIV) By ancient custom, the visitors were under Lot's protection. Lot was so infected by the wickedness of Sodom that he offered the homosexuals his two virgin daughters instead. Furious, the mob rushed up to break down the door.

    The angels struck the rioters blind! Leading Lot, his wife, and two daughters by the hand, the angels hurried them out of the city. The girls' fianc├ęs would not listen and stayed behind.

    Lot and his family fled to a tiny village called Zoar. The Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah, destroying the buildings, the people, and all the vegetation in the plain.

    Lot's wife disobeyed the angels, looked back, and turned into a pillar of salt.
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    Then look at what Lot, and his daughters got into!
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    Strawman Attack.gif

    You just keep attacking that strawman. :rolleyes:
  4. steve4102

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    If the shoe fits!
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    If Obama is re-elected, we will never have another free election.

    It would not surprise me at all to see him declare (or create) a national emergency that "requires" him to suspend the Constitution.

    It likely will be hyperinflation.

    And the 55% majority of Americans on welfare and his Communist Supreme Court will support him 100%.

    Read this opinion piece by Matt Bracken to get a glimpse of the future:

    http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/
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    LOL

    Me either.

    Because then those that voted for the socialist [light] Romney will see him for what he really is. And I can say, "I told ya so."

    :D:D:D


    And, on a note for the OP, we haven't had true capitalism in the US for many decades. True capitalism ONLY exists under small government. Period. We don't have small government now, and won't have it under Romney either.
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    You can check every post I have ever made and see if I have ever said romney is the answer to the problem. You wont find it. I would rather let charles manson take the country off a cliff than allow this criminal one more hour in the white house. How sad is that. I do believe that we can possibly prevent the supreme court appointments that will void the second amendment by getting him out. Just to strip this anti american illegal terrorist muslim of his address is all I want for christmas. If he wins, I may be looking for a real tall cliff to jump from, I dont know if I can take it.
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    Dan, just find a real tall cliff to throw him off of! If ya need any help just holler!
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    I can vote for Romney with a great deal more enthusiasm than when I pulled the handle for John McCain. I knew John in the Navy when we were both based at NAS Oceana. He was in a sister AD squadron, and on a different deployment schedule, but I knew him, and thought he was a major ###hole. Romney is not my first choice either, but he is a much safer candidate than Crazy Ron. I WOULD NEVER vote for the Great Pretender, NEVER in a million years, just hope and pray he is defeated this next month, and we NEVER have to endure any of this extreme policies.
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    It's about our Nation's future for sure. Whether we will have an economic collapse or eventually have a stable economy. Whether we will maintain our Nation's status as a world leader or become an England or Argentina. Whether we will see an ending of our constitution which will lead to revolution or still have freedom.

    I listened to Romney's foreign policy speech, right on the money. I just hope and pray all the takers don't value their govt check over their kid's future.

    My nephew is coming home from Afghan this week, hope to do some hunting with him. He was only there for 5 months, but seems to get sent over there every year. His partner has been to Afghan 8 times since 2001, unreal what they expect our military to go through with their families and kids. I guess he was attached to a Marine Recon Unit last few months; all kinds of "People & Culture" exposure; lots of fire fights & flight time. Anyway, good for him to be back.
  12. steve4102

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    Tell him thanks from all of us .
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    Sit on my hands? I'm not the morally challenged one here who waits till its to late then votes for a soft candidate. I'm the one who has been warning people about Obama a year before he was elected and have been preaching about getting a good constitutionally based government. You wait till it's a done deal and then you say I am sitting on my hands. Where in the hell have you been and what have you been doing? Have you put in the effort to learn the issues and supported your candidate with your time and money or are you the late bloomer? The man who finally realizes there is an election coming up and says to himself, "I better go see who they are going to let me vote for". Are you part of the problem or the solution, Romney is not the solution.
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    No, Dan, I know that YOU don't go for R either. And please, don't jump off a cliff if O wins again, we need you on the side of right, for, God forbid, the crap hittin' the fan. Your family, church, and neighbors will need you too. Those folks'll need all of us.

    --Andrew
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    Thanks for your stand Grump.

    You know what is truly sad, Steve? Here in NY state, the state will go to Obama. Romney doesn't have a chance. So, all the people here that vote for Romney.... are THROWING AWAY THEIR VOTE. Instead of either not voting, or voting for a different person entirely - and telling the Republican party that their machine stinks and is broken, they'll follow blindly along again.
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  16. steve4102

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    I rest my case.
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    They'll also piss in the wind with the same effect but hey, that'll teach those corrupt republicans won't it.
  18. 45silverback

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    Absolutely agree Jack...
    But not this election. This one is just to damned important. We got 1 shot to get the Commie out of the whitehouse.

    The rest we have to handle later.

    What do you do first? Put out the fire, or start painting the other side of the house?
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    I assure you I know a bunch more about the history and evolution of totalitarian governments than you do. This is just a cycle repeated. I wnat to slow it down long enought to die a comfortable death...
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