What this election is about.

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  1. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

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    Not with people like you sitting back waiting for a self-gratifying "I told you so".

    Unlike you I will do whatever I can to oust Obama. Even if that means holding my nose at the voting booth.

    Good luck, be safe and enjoy the New Socialist America you helped create. Thanks.
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    Oh the time cant come fast enough.........
  3. Old Grump

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    When have you ever seen me post a "I told you so"? Unlike you I will keep on working to educate ostriches till enough of them get the courage to take a stand for what is right instead of just blindly voting for another party hack.

    There is another election in 2 years, will you be ready to make good choices or will you wait till the last 30 days and then look around to see who the party bosses want you to vote for?
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    Might want to look at who I quoted there bud. As in post #27 and 36.
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    No Republican presidential candidate since Reagan has won NY state Steve. How is that my fault? How is it my fault if Romney doesn't win NY state, even if I voted for him? It's a numeric impossibility for him to win NY state, so, how is that my fault, whether I vote for him or not? Your case isn't a case at all. Making things personal does nothing to help your argument either.
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    Big difference between giving up because you live in a State full of Liberals as opposed to preaching the Obama Light, Romney the Socialist, "I told you so" , Romney sucks crap.

    You have given up on your State and your Country, fine I get it. But why the continued effort to derail a Romney Victory?

    Just because he has little or no chance in your State you are hell bent on convincing the rest of America how he is Obama Light and will continue implementing Obama's Socialist programs.

    BTW here in the land of the true Left wing nut jobs, MN. Obama is behind in the recent polls. Romney has no campaign headquarters and is not spending a dime in this State as he has written it off as you have written off NY. Grass roots and hard work by individuals have put Romney Neck and neck with a slight lead. I'm not saying Romney will take MN, but it's close enough to keep pushing, educating and trying. Unlike you I will not give up and I will certainly not preach the Romney Light crap just because my State may be a lost cause.
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    Here in Texas we're working at flushing the RHINOs and pretenders out of office. It's hard work and takes time. I'll fight this battle now so we don't have to do something else later.
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    I love reading claims like this online. :rolleyes:

    You don't have any idea if you're talking to a 8th grade kid who spends all day on World of Warcraft or a PhD who teaches graduate-level history classes.
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    The "I told you so" comment was some dark humor Steve. I'm sorry you didn't get it. Your vitriolic response is a bit over the top.

    Just because I'm telling the truth about Romney, doesn't mean I've given up on my state or my country. That's ridiculous. His record speaks for itself, as does what he's currently saying (NO CHANGE). What continued effort to derail Romney? I haven't said anything about this for 2 months. LOL Exaggerate much? I can't derail Romney, in this state or any other.

    I'm not hell bent on convincing anyone on anything, other than the truth. Romney's record speaks for itself. The warning is clear. He has little difference from our current dictator, and it's doubtful he will change the direction of the country - based on his OWN record and current comments.

    You want "Anyone but Obama," I get that. I find it interesting that so many gun owners, yourself included, want an avid GUN-HATER in the WH so badly over the current liberal in the WH. I'm just afraid you'll be unpleasantly surprised. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.

    Please understand, if Romney wins, I really do hope he does the right thing and turn things around. But, I don't really believe he will.
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    All I know for sure is the only poll that counts is the one being taken in 27 days. Interesting to see Obamas over all lead in the country dwindle to a tie and his 14 point lead in Wisconsin a Democrat state if there ever was one dwindle down to 4 points.

    I'm spitting in the wind trying to get people put of their rut but I have to try. I know Romney is a good moral man but so was Carter and so was Bush. Takes more than going to Sunday school and swearing off the use of drugs and alcohol to make a good leader. I will admit when it comes to Executive Experience Romney is heads and shoulders above the light weight now occupying the oval office but the fact remains he is a soft Republican and we haven't had a good hard core solid values Republican get taken seriously by the party leadership in decades. That is why I finally left the Republican party. They gave up on their core values.
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    This election is about moving way back to the good old days before 1776 when there were Royals in charge and commoners on the bottom; Royals who were entitled by God to control us commoners. The Royals of today quietly consider the American Revolution to have been a pinko-commie affair. The Royals of today are smart. They own the printing presses, not folks like Ben Franklin. With smart market research and spin doctors they can convince us fools to surrender our rights as easily as we were sold on bottled water. Know your place commoners.
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    What truths do you have that Romney will continue to implement Obama's Socialist programs?

    A list of Obama's Socialist programs and agendas followed by the truths/facts that Romney will continue to implement them would be nice.

    Thanks.
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    And neither do you Sir. Isn't this little make-believe world we navigate wonderful?
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    I agree that I don't know who you are or what you know. That's why I did not dispute that you may, in fact, know more than the history and development of totalitarian governments than the other member you were responding to.

    But blanket "assurances" like that don't help credibility.
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    God has a plan, and no matter what we do, or how we act, it will come to pass! In the mean time, let's get rid of all the riff raff we can. Is Romney better for this Country than the muslim, anti christian, communist, illegal immigrant now in office? You betchya! Is there a better choice than Mitt Romney? Sure there is, but that person either isn't running, or didn't get the GOP nod. I would love to have seen Ron Paul in this race instead of Romney. Or better yet, Allen West! We had our chance to see that happen, but we couldn't make it happen. There are only two people in this race that can win, Romney, and Obozo. Now it's up to us to make sure that the candidate we want in office gets the job.
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    No matter who the candidate, or the Party, it has been and ALWAYS will be about POWER. PERIOD!
    The question is, what kind of power base does the individual (or people) prefer, socialist or Capitalist.
    In OUR system of free market capitalist enterprise, that power base allows most ANYONE to ascend to a level of power restricted mostly by their own input and level of dedication.
    In the socialist power base system, ONLY those CHOSEN or dedicated enough will rise to any level of power or earnings, and then it's an iffy proposition as to how long it can be retained, due to the fewer positions available and the struggle for those positions.
    Romney wants power, so does Obama.
    But Romney recognizes the power of free enterprise, whilest Obama does too, but doesn't like it.
    Obama wants total power, like the fascist he is. The fools of the left THINK he's a socialist, but that's because they're fools.
    I've always said that socialists are idiots simply by their affiliation to that system, because it flies in the face of the human desire for property and prosperity.
    Any one who claims to be a socialist is either a fool or a power monger, there is NO other answer for it.
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    I know. For some though, even if it was 20 points they were the same on, that still isn't enough to convince them that Romney is NOT going to be the hero they expect.

    The BIG one, the one I cannot get over, is all the gun owners who veritably WORSHIP Romney, when he is the WORST Repub candidate in history on guns. He WILL ban them if he has the chance - as proven by his record..... a record, which apparently doesn't mean much to people. Unbelievable.

    He WILL do it given the chance. He will be "forced" to for the "good" of the nation.

    He IS going to sell out the conservatives of this nation.
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