What would happen?

Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by 2muchfreetime, May 23, 2012.

  1. Appliancedude

    Appliancedude Well-Known Member

    In short. If you have a bullet stuck in your barrel and shoot another one?

  2. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2012
    could a dud not also indicate no primer fire off.. or a primer fire off that fialed to ignite the powder charge?

    and since 'squib' seems to refer to an 'underpowered' load.. then a load with no powder, and just the primer to kick the bullet out of the case and into the rifleing.. seems to fit the 'book' definition of a squib. as it was 'underpowered due to lack of a propellant charge.. no?
    Last edited: May 24, 2012

  3. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    A squib is an INTENTIONALLY underpowered load. If you forgot to put powder in it, that does not make it INTENTIONALLY underpowered.

    A squib can be a dud. If you intentionally put a very little amount of powder in the case, and thus did not make the round powerful enough to get out the barrel, it is a dud, even though it is also a squib. That does not, however, make all duds squibs.

    And as for "the military calls it" - the military says you piss in the latrine or the head. You eat in a mess. You sleep in a rack. You wear a cover on your head, and when you police the area you wear either fatigues or utilities. Me, I piss in the bathroom, eat in the dining room, sleep in a bed, and wear a hat on my head, and when I pick up trash in the yard I wear jeans and a tee shirt. What the military calls it means absolutely nothing.
  4. BlackEagle

    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2011
    2muchfreetime, welcome to the forum.

    It sounds like you got the answer to your question. The people here are great sources of help; there is a wealth of info and experience here.

    We enjoy helping others out and learning ourselves. Sometimes there can be lively discussion, but it's all in good spirit, and people enjoy kidding each other.

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  5. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2012
    Um.. you answered a question different than i asked.

    You assume a 'forget to put powder in'

    if one intentionally did not put powder in.. would it still not be a squib.

    as long as the primer fires.. it would not be a dud, it seems?
  6. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    Well, yes, if one intentionally did not put powder in, hoping that "primer power" alone would drive the bullet, then it would be a squib. Then if it got stuck in the barrel it would also be a dud.
  7. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    I answered a question different from what you asked because I presumed you were talking about a reloading error -leaving out the powder.
  8. mikld

    mikld Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    Called an OOPS!

    And my day is so much better now that I've had my semantics lesson :lmao2:

    A small firecracker that does not explode, or a broken firecracker.
    A short humorous or satric writing or speech.
    A non-magical person who is born to at least one magical parent.
    An electric match is a small explosive device which is used in pyrotechnics and display.
    A "squib" load is defined as one which has insufficient power to propel a bullet through the barrel of a gun.

    But no mention of a "low powered load for target shooting"...
    Last edited: May 24, 2012
  9. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2012
    well there are soo many options to think about.

    i know cd and bb caps are not apples to apples here.. but I have also seen 'wad' guns that use primers in cartridges with a wad only.. simplar to a blank setup.. etc..
  10. ryan42

    ryan42 New Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    marion indiana
    Thats pretty good Alpo I like how you think.
  11. BDJ

    BDJ Active Member

    Dec 3, 2011
    N.W. Ohio
  12. Appliancedude

    Appliancedude Well-Known Member

    Yep, and if I read ALpo's definition correctly he's wrong too
  13. dammitman

    dammitman Active Member

    Feb 1, 2009
    i have experienced squibs and duds. i dont really have a need for either one.
  14. mb1

    mb1 Former Guest

    Jan 16, 2012

    Carver, be very careful with that assumption. I have witnessed and have personally pulled the trigger (unintentionally of course) on rounds that have cycled the slide without any powder. The only indication was the sound and the reduced recoil.
  15. Little Rooster

    Little Rooster New Member

    Oct 17, 2007
    Old Dominion
    I would like to add a warning also, A revolver will still cycle with a squib or a dud whatever you want to refer to it as.
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