I have owned several Llama's in the past. The ones that I owned back in the seventies were good quality guns, I had a .45 and two .380s and never had a minutes problems with them. Of course I traded them all off years ago. I bought a "new" .380 one about 7 or 8 years ago and couldn't get rid of that piece of junk fast enough. I think if the one you were looking at was one of the older ones, you would be very please with it.