what's a bang for buck night vision (thermal) unit

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  1. jack404

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    With the win to allow hunting in national and state parks here the next thing we have to do is push for banned equipment to be allowed again

    part of this is the forming of specialist groups based on environmental control of non native, feral species , particularly the invasive and replacing species such as cats .

    Cat hunting teams are being formed now and readied for the opening of the parks to shooters

    they are being advised to contact the local rangers and work in with them to best protect the existing fauna , and the local folks will know best where protection is needed , and gon on a broader sweep later

    however Thermal night vision has been restricted here but we have a parliamentry go ahead for a trial of suitable equipment to be used by these teams for environmental control management

    hassle is no-one had much to do and i see add's online often but what is a bang for buck solution

    not the best , not the cheapest , but what works and what will show a cat's nest on a cold night

    based on the info we'll get some to trial , get it over here , test it out and write a report for the gov to rule on ..

    cheers
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    Re: what a bang for buck night vision (thermal) unit

    It would be neat to see a final copy of that report. That's something I could get into.
    Not that shooting cats is high on my list. But, as a person living in Florida, the word Feral is common. Feral's breed. Kinda like our latest scourge, the Pythons.

    We have more than our share of imported pests to deal with. Good hunting.
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    them , they are just nasty ass snakes , we have then trapped in one area on the northwest coast they cant seem to cross the dessert , but not enough is being done to wipe em out , it took a cyclone that wiped out darwin , to wipe them out of darwin ,

    darwin was bulldozed and the snakes there eradicated , but they stayed in the broome area ..

    cats here are the big killer of native species ,

    i think the greens would be a close second , they chose aerial distribution of poisoned baits rather than shooting in their drive for gun control

    aint seen a quoll brown or spotted since eh .. aint seen no marsupial mice either , but know theres plenty the other side of the ranges still , just a mates place would repopulate here

    shootings the best way , and if we can do it at night when the cats are active we get a lot more
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    ATN has a forward mounted unit that mounts in front of your day optic and it comes in both NV and Thermal. NV runs about 5 large US for a Gen 4 optic, and Thermal is a shade over 10 large US.
    I dream of one on my hog gun, along with a Supressor for some redneck ninja hog hunting trips.
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    We have feral hogs here in southern Missouri, looking into buying a good chunk of land down there just so I can go hunting anytime I want.

    jack, the only stuff I have experience with is military, and everything I used was either handheld or a part of the missile system I was firing. There are the simple light gathering devices which work really well as long as you have plenty of starlight or moonlight. With these, you get to actually see what's out there like there was a lot more light, which I always preferred.

    Thermal imaging would be fine for close encounters, but it's not a sharp image and while you could tell something was there, it would just be a mass of the different colors, you couldn't tell if it was a cat, a huge rat, or a small dog, just that it was giving off heat.

    Then you have the infrared systems, which consist of an emitter and a receiver. These just put out an infrared "beam", and then your scope would basically be one with a filter so that it only sees the infrared instead of all the standard forms of light.

    My preference would be a starscope, then the infrared, then the thermal. I'd check into whatever company the military is currently using for their stuff.
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    I personally dig the Gen 4 NV. Very clean picture.
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    my stuff here is all ex soviet ..

    but the reason we have looked at the thermal is the ones i've borrowed i've been able to sit on a hill and spot all the dens and nests of anything on the hill opposite

    they can be 10 foot down a den but their warmth still shows , birds in nests all sorts of stuff
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    sweet. Makes it easy to map a potential hunting spot eh.
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    yep so you shoot a bunny , gut it partially tie with as string to your horse and drag it for a few k's whistling as you would for fox ..

    drag it past your ambush spot /killzone and double back to it ,

    amazing how many cats will follow that trail up over a few hours so 2 folks up in shooting pos for a hour max each

    so if you do it through a bunch of them ;)

    only want 1-2 night scopes per group /area to make a impact on the cat population
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    I think we are supposed to get something new here for work as far as thermal rifle sights go. Hopefully we will and they will be better than what we have. We have $10-15k scopes that stink and are huge. If we get something good, I'll let you kow.
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    I used thermal imaging on TOW missile systems back in the 80's in the Army, it was a pretty impressive system whoever made it, it was sensitive enough that looking at a person through it, you could tell whether or not they were wearing underwear, as I found out when the lady reporter for Stars and Stripes came through the display we had set up...
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    Purely on accident, I'm sure. :rolleyes:
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    say, jack, by cats do you mean regular cats like house cats? are they that big a problem where you are?
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    big problem each cat will kill 6-10 times a day ... every day

    cleans a area out of breeding birds fast ,
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