What's happening in my neck of the woods...

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by hogger129, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009

  2. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    I thought it was us consertives that were dangerous, gun toting, Bible believing, and possible terrorists!

  3. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    was it a conservative that shot the lady politician and them other folks ? who did he work for the year before ? what was their stand ( his employer of political nature) on guns?

    its the same as opposing islam and being called racist for it

    those who opposed socialism in Russia where called realigous zealots ( and their opposition used as a excuse to stand over and to shut down many Churches)

    is how socialists work , you say no they dont ask why they just make something up and counter accuse you with it ..

    socialists are the dangerous ones

    look here

    is it the anti islamic movement bashing people and vandalising stuff?
    is it the pro israel pro Christian Lobby attacking shops and business's here own by jewish folks ?


    its all socialists doing the attacks

    but who is the fear of attack from being bantered about ?

    yeah blame conservative Christian folks .. watch them , they are the pro gun pro Christian and they are the dangerous ones , hahahahahaha yeah right
  4. jim brady

    jim brady Well-Known Member

    Sep 22, 2009
    Simla, Colorado
    Had a History teacher back in the mid 60s in High School who said to us "The History books are written by the winners". Anti Socialists who investigated the Socialist influance in the film industry and newspapers were demonized in the late 50s and early 60s as "looking for a Communist under every bed" and were stero-typed as racists, bungling ignorant "Archie Bunkers".

    The Socialists now openly run the film industry and news services. They just changed their names from "Communists or Socialists" to "Progressives or Liberals". Look at who's writing the History books these days.

    Same cereal - just a new box. By the way - does anybody still think that the Soviets and Red Chinese just gave up and decided to be our buddies? They are still our mortal enemies, and those who support them are traitors.
  5. ofitg

    ofitg Active Member

    Feb 25, 2010
    Nixon, Ford and Carter worked to normalize relations with Red China - we sold out Cambodia along the way - and full diplomatic relations with China were established in 1979. Every president since that time has assisted China in one way or another, helping them build up their economy, their military strength, their technology.... back in the 1990s, Motorola sent engineers to China to launch Iridium satellites from Chinese launchpads.... now the Chinese have their own space program.

    Jim, a lot of the younger guys might not have any personal memories of the Cold War days, so we might as well be discussing a Sci-Fi movie as far as they're concerned..... but it seems to me that the United States is the side that just gave up and decided to be "buddies".
  6. vytoland

    vytoland New Member

    Oct 14, 2008
    watch out terrorists are everywhere.:eek:
  7. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    Well that and I thought Nixon originally decided to recognize Red China to separate them from supporting North Vietnam in an effort to get North Vietnam to the bargaining table and negotiate a cease-fire.
  8. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    There are MANY ways to bring your enemies around to your way of thinking, some just take more time than others. I wonder if some of you will recant your words when the Red chinese stop being 'RED' in the next 20 years.
    After all, MOST people are just people, and when you give them a taste of the better (Capitolistic) way of life, they come around.
    The old Communists are dying off, soon their influence will just be a chapter in the history books. And the newer, younger and "I want this" generation will lead China into a newer,brighter future.
    Those who say it won't work should just look at the former Soviet Union.
    Or you can just rattle your swords and fill body bags.
  9. jim brady

    jim brady Well-Known Member

    Sep 22, 2009
    Simla, Colorado
    No sword rattlin' here, Bro. Just the fact that if you or anyone else thinks for one minute that the Russians or the Red Chinese have 'turned over a new leaf" or "found Jesus", you are sadly mistaken.

    Why do you think that Russia and China block each and every move that we have attempted to make within the United Nations to do things like leash North Korea or Iran? Could all of this possibly be co-incidence? I seriously doubt it. Fact of the matter is that they hate us and forever will seek to destroy us.

    The Cold War never ended for Putin or the Red Chinese. We all LIKE TO THINK that things are peachy-keene, but the only thing that changed is that Russia and Red China have realized that they can beat us at our own game. They just need to be patient, and they are patient.

    The Chinese have moved into the 21st Century with material goods. Other than that, they are the same folks who swarmed into North Koea to fight us in the early 50s. Don't think that they are a changed, peacable people because they expanded their highway system.

    The "satelite States" that comprised the former Soviet Union are only a whisper away from being forced back into that empire. Russia still pulls the strings in them. There are many examples, but to bring out one - how about that airplane 'accident' that killed off almost the entire Polish leadership team. Think about it. The Polish government was dealing with the issue of the 1000s of butchered Polish Army Officers under Stalin's regime. The spotlight sure came off of that in one quick hurry, didnt it? Nobody asked many questions about the 'accident', did they? Russia still has it boot firmly on the throat of Eastern Europe.

    I truly wish that I am somehow wrong, and that those of you who think that the Russian bear and the Chinese dragon are now tame critters are right. I believe that one day in the very near future that they will un-mask themselves. Believe me, that day will not be one to find me saying "I told you so". It will be much too horrible for that.
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2011
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