whats the best 22 automatic rifle?

Discussion in '.22-Rimfire Forum' started by redbelly52, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. ampaterry

    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

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    My old Marlin Glenfield is jamming constantly, and I have been unable to straighten it out, so decided to replace it.

    Not having a ton of $$, I opted for a Mossberg Plinkster, and fitted it with a 3X9 lighted reticle scope -
    The whole outfit, tax and background check fee included, set me back $179.

    I mounted the scope and sighted it in Monday, and am quite pleased with the results. Feeding it some VERY old .22 lightning rounds, it functioned flawlessly, and proved to be far more accurate than the guy holding it -
    50 yard kill shots virtually guaranteed.

    But my oh my what a difference in TN gun laws since I bought the Marlin!!
    I paid $10 for background check, gave thumbprints, and filled out a two page form. Then went to eat while the INSTANT background check was completed, and when all was settled and paid for, a security guard at Wally World where I bought it had to carry the gun outside before she could give it to me -

    I remember when I was about 13 and bought a 7mm Japanese Army rifle and box of shells at a gun shop, and carried it home across the handlebars of my bike without even telling them my name.
    And no one thought anything about it.
    I miss the good old days!
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  2. exarius

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    OH GOD I WANT ONE!!! Thats sweet! but to be clear is that a .22 MAG? and what are the mods you added, and arnt silencers illegal? How would one go about getting one for the g22? I work in the oil field....we arnt supposed to have guns....but being in the middle of nowhere with 100's of thousands of dollars in oil on location....i want to know that if someone decides to try to get a payday, if that mean looking rifle doesnt deter them, a nice solid bullet in the ass will, or if a havilena pig wanders onto location and wont leave, i can kill it quietly without anyone being the wiser.
  3. jack404

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    silencers in New Zealand are legal and considered a sign of a polite shooter , who can pop a bunny in his garden at dawn and not wake his neighbour , as it should be ...

    they had a Lady Pm there for a while who's record shows she never once met with a anti gun lobbyist or advocate ( so never got bought ) ..
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  4. whichfinger

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    :yeahthat: And really, all the guys giving a shout-out to centerfires are right. It's easy to wound a 'yote with a 22LR and have die an agonizing death if you're into that sort of thing. A .22 Mag would be the least you should use.

    And :yeahthat: Remington 597M is the only semiauto 22 Mag currently manufactured. Don't discount bolt- or lever-actions, though.
  5. doubs43

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    To kill a coyote with a .22LR will require an accurate rifle that puts it's first shot where you want it. A .22 magnum would be the better choice but if you insist on a .22LR, I'll offer two suggestions that are known to be accurate without a lot of extra cost.

    My first choice would be a CZ-512. Bud's Guns has them for $417 shipped. They will use 5 or 10 round mags. They are also available in .22 mag at a higher price. CZ rifles are top drawer and to do better will cost you several times the money.

    Second would be a TC Classic. Again, not cheap but those I've shot have been very accurate.

    If you're not set in concrete for a semi-auto, then consider the CZ-455 combo in .22LR and .17HMR. You could add a .22 mag barrel later. Buds has the combo for $481 shipped. The CZ will last many generations if given even minimal care.
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    The CZ-512 is made in .22 mag.
  7. CJ_56

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    AS far as bolt guns go, my Savage Mk II BTV will shoot better than my CZ 453. Not by a lot but it was much cheaper. Both are great rifles and I will be holding onto each for many years to come. And before I hear about how CZ's are built better I'll point out that my CZ has had all sorts of problems since I bought it ranging from a bolt that sticks completely and rust on the barrel among other things. I've pretty much eliminated those problems though by switching to another oil for protecting the finish and using a little gun grease on the bolt at the right spot. I've also had problems with the two stage trigger not firing when I pull the set trigger. They aren't perfect rifles and I do believe a person can match their quality with other rifles at about the same price or even less. It all depends on what piece you want to be quality.
  8. doubs43

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    So what kind of groups are you talking at 50 yards and how consistently can you do it?

    Any suggestion that the Savage fit, finish and build quality is on a par with a CZ is demonstrably wrong. A fair comparison of them will show that to be a fact. I have a Savage BTVXP thumbhole laminated stock rifle in excellent condition that I'll sell for $300. The closest model Savage sells today is retail priced at, or over, $400.

    I won't debate that Savage rifles will shoot. Some will. But, the average Savage won't shoot better than the average CZ. Your conclusion that your Savage will outshoot the CZ-453 may, or may not, be correct. I have no way of knowing how much effort you've put into finding the best cartridge for each. I don't know your skill level or any other facts that might influence the outcome.

    But, it's your money so you buy whatever suits you. In 10, 15 or 20 years, see which of your two rifles will bring the better return on your cost.
  9. CCHolderinMaine

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    A Ruger 10/22 is always a great choice in .22
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  10. Hawg

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    Not if you want decent accuracy right out of the box. As a platform for a custom it can't be beat but you have to spend some bucks to make it shoot as well as a Marlin model 60 does right out of the box.
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    I have to agree with Hawg as my experiences would dictate. I have two 10/22 rifles that will shoot sub-1/2 inch groups at 50 yards but the only original parts are the receiver, bolt and trigger group. Both were done for less than $300 each but that was some years back. Out of the box they were both more scatter guns than rifles. I had a similar experience with a Ruger Model 77 so I don't even pause to look at Ruger rifles when I'm in a gun store.
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    ...A Ruger 10/22 is always a great choice in .22...

    Ive owned both, the 10/22 some years ago and a long time back, the Marlin 60.
    And now own a new 60 and could'nt agree with you more Hawg!
    A big +1!
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    We don't know the environment or what range he will be shooting at. Maybe he has a nice setup where the coyotes walk through his backyard giving him easy and effective shot placement. With good shot placement you can drop some decent game with a .22 without issues. You do have to hit where you aim though. I like my Rugers, nuff said.
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    Marlin 795 ss with a 3-9 x 40 scope
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    :thumbsup:
    I had an 882 SS mag....'twas nice!
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    Yesterday I did not know that. Today I do. I love progress!

    Thanks for that info. :thumbsup:
  17. Big Shrek

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    For a 'yote, and a clean kill, .22lr is enough...if you are a good shot and its within 75 yards.

    For a more definitive hit, a 50-grain Federal Game-Shok out of a .22WMR chambered rifle will drop 'em as far as 150-200 yards.

    My Marlin 25MN (grandfather of the XT22-M series) is an easy 1/4" shooter at 25 yards...slightly more at 50 yards...and all in a quarter at 100...
    which I only paid $85 for at a pawn shop...
    I have, of course, tweaked the trigger, polished the bolt, bedded the action, and use a bipod & sling on a table inside the barn's loft window :D
    The scope is a 4-16x44 Center Point set for 125 yards...so I've got less than $300 in the whole setup,
    and it knocks the socks off most everything I've ever run across for precision.

    For even more pop, move up to 7mm-08 or .270 and take 'em at longer distances...
    A Marlin XS7 is perfect for that, as they are inexpensive (start at $300), and chock-full of sub-MOA goodness right from the factory!
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  18. Captain Jack

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    i have a ruger 10/22 nice gun but not a thompson center r55 clasic this gun outshoots my 10/22 every time when i`m going to the range I bring my thompson , when I go with someone who doesn`t have a gun I bring the 10/22 for him or her whoever it may be , not sayingTHE RUGER ISN`T A GOOD GUN JUST THE THOMPSON HAS A SPECIAL FEEL TO ME I like it , I guess whatever gun you get you gotta like it it really makes a difference even if its all in your head it will help , also best grouping loads for me are cci standard velosity 5 rounds at 50 yrds all touching every time except for flyers loupold lps 2.5 x 10
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  19. swiftman

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    TC R55 They shoot out of the box. No need to replace everything but the receiver, like a 10/22.
  20. Big Shrek

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    Heck, even a Beretta NEOS Carbine Kit shoots better than a bone-stock 1022...they really ain't hard to beat as far as precision goes.
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