When "IT" happens (what ever IT may be)

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by ShawnDow, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

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    remember guys.. keep yer' powder dry!
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    I dont think there will be any services period.Most of us can fish,hunt,and grow are own food.What I think will be the biggest problem is Roaming gangs,thugs what ever you want to call them.I think what we will have to worry the most about is protection from such people.The people that dont have resources to take care of themselves are the ones thats gonna form groups to go around and try to take are resources.I think to be well protected you need to do it in numbers.What im trying to say is if its just me trying to protect my homestead and my family members it would almost be impossible to fend everyone off by myself.Im sure I could for awhile but if 15 to 20 people stormed my place im sure i would take some of them out but i couldnt get them all.The only people thats gonna freeze in the north are the homeless.In the south without airconditioning the sick and elderly will dye from heat stroke and exhaustion.Remember this you can always get warm but you cant always get cool.
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    Don't know what or when IT will be, or even if it WILL be, but whatever comes down the pike the lady of the house (also a shooter/hunter/collector) and I should be in reasonably good shape. There's at least a year's worth of preserved venison, seafood, veggies and such on our pantry shelves, water is gravity flow in from a high mountain lake, and gravity flow out, heat's provided by a monster stone fireplace - which is also set up for cooking if need be, as well as a diesel fed monitor. It's not so much that we've been expecting something, IT, or whatever, to happen, but rather that we live in an area prone to power blackouts - williwaws drop trees across power lines etc, and a couple of years ago dropped one onto the mountain lake generating station itself, and there have been occasions when we've been without power - or rationed power - for a couple of weeks. We're also an isolated community in the sense that the only way in or out is by air or sea - period, so if Mother Nature's seeling frisky for extended periods supplies could grow lean. That hasn't happened since I've been here, but then our dormant volcano (Mt. Edgecumbe) hasn't erupted either. Never say never.
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    i agree... a small trusted group is the best way to go... a single person can't stay up 24 hours a day to keep watch. A small group is mobile if needed.. and doesn't hit a region hard when scrounging for resources. a group of 6 is easier to feed than a group of 20. my closest friends and I have an emergency plan in case the civilization goes TU. we have a pre designated meeting palce and time plus an alternate in case primary is notpossible due to a set criteria.. once we meet up.. we have a primary and a secondary place to make it to. our group has a good skill set. depending on how many of us make it.. we have a core group of 5 and a possible group of 8. in that group is 2 or 3 ex military, 3 with some sort of 1st responder or paramedic, or misc medical training, 4 with extensive driving capabilities ( trucks, tractors, semi-s, heavy equipment, boats etc.. ), one has had pilots training on single engine aircraft, 2 are teachers, 2 reload, 2 with engineering backgrounds, 1 with aircraft maintenance background, 3 that hunt, 2 with divers cards, 2 with communication equipment experience, ..

    if it doesnt get us on the initial opening salvo.. I think we got a chance.

    and es I agree.. civil unrest will be a problem. other unprepaired people wanting your stuff...
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    Ill agree with the un prepared all the way. The community I live in has a population of about 4500 people in the off season...darn tourist rack it up to 8500 in the summer... Our community for the most part have been in these parts for their life time... there are a few exceptions like my self that moved here for work... But I do have family here... and they have been here for generations. Although we are "family" here, I'm sure there are those who would abandon the family to get whatever it is they felt they needed... Who can you trust?
    I trust my bolt action -06. then the type 56...
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    I'm gonna go down there to Louisiana, find a nice high spot in a bayou and learn to make gator stew. Y'all come on down. We'll need all the gator bait we can get!
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    But Ron, what if I show up at your door looking like this?

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    Id come down... but I don't know if I'd go near the banjoes playing in the mountains that cross between you and I....
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    that would be one of those furry critters...Yummmm!
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    Well then for you it will be,,,

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    Your right a small group will be better than a large one.I think you would have to stay off the main roads and I would like to stay put if I could be I thinks where ever your hold up needs to be off the beaten path.Definetly stay away from big cities,they would have alot of places to hide and ambush you.I would like to take an old pick and reinforce it with steal in or in other words armor it up as best I could.That way if I had to make a resuppy run I would have some protection.You know like a madmax mobile.lol
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    that would be a '73 Australian Ford Falcon..(XB i think).
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    Love it!:bow:
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    yup.. a place back off the main roads.. or not visible.. and has a source of water at least.. if not food capability
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    I think it is wise to be prepared with what is in one's means. Water, water sources, food, clothing, bedding, hand tools, heat source, LOTS of anti septic wipes to avoid the spread of disease and plenty of mouth wash to kill airborne diseases which WILL be unavoidable. Propane, knives and a way to sharpen them (non-electric sharpener), axe's, tools, tools, and more tools, then of course guns and ammo. Don't forget the most important tools available to you,,, the Bible.

    Most will lose their minds and panic and die. So if you just keep your cool and think everything through and rely on the Lord all will be fine.
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    That what the kitty wants is total honor,,, oh and tuna fish and lots of it.
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    I like tuna helper.My brother has a wood about a mile off the road.Theres no road that leads to it which is a good deturrent.You just drive on the edge of the field.Theres a pond right smack dab in the middle of the woods so we would just have to purify it.We would just need to build some kind of structure.That wouldnt be hard at all.I just hope I dont see it or my kids see it in there lifetime.But it sure dont look good.
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    Somebody up the thread said something about "we can all hunt and fish and grow our own food". Depends on where you live.

    I live in town. Ain't a big town. Less than 100,000 in the whole county. But when I want to go hunting, I get in the truck and drive 40 to 60 miles, to the woods. Hard to do that with no gas. I could put a garden in the back yard, but I sure couldn't grow enough food to live on. And unless I've got a pretty good stockpile of foodstuffs, I'd starve before the stuff in the garden came ripe.

    Jamestown. Virginia, which is MUCH warmer than Wisconsin. Half the colony died of starvation, the first year. Probably a whole lot more game then then now. Whole lot less people trying for it, too, but they still starved.
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    yep.. that's the point of having a go or BOB bag. that lil headstart it gives you those first 3 days helps you deal with the panic and give you time to think, vs immediately having to scavange for food and water adn medical supplies the instant the 'it' hits the fan. :)

    great point about mouthwash.. it's a great safe antiseptic!
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    the "it" will be economic collapse first and foremost. we are living at an unsustainable rate, and now "they" say spain is the next country to follow greece. thinking we are not that far behind. after currency is no good, then we'll be back to the 1800's sure. and yes, the uban areas will spread out to take what you have, so groups make sense. think about all the gangbangers that'll need fuel, food, and ammo. over 1mil gang members in the united states right now. think civil defense will go after them? not likely. easier to take out small pockets of defenders than to mess with a horde. long road ahead to straighten out this mess
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