which caliber for all around use?

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  1. hunter29180

    hunter29180 Well-Known Member

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    personally if I was treeded by a hog, I would most likely not have my rifle as I have found I can RUN AND CLIMB much faster without having it in my hands! so that is why I always carry a revolver on my hip! at least I would have it! and actually I prefer a good skinning knife to a "pig sticker" it weighs less and is usually sharper!

    and if I had to fend off a hog I would much preferr a lead filled bat! we used to have to catch up pigs (babys) by hand, and momma ALWAYS took offense at that! we always used 3 catchers and 2 "fenders" have never seen a hog not back up 2-3 steps when that bat impacts the nose! gives a body time to get across the steel fence before they recovered! we learned early on that a sow can tear though a wood fence in about 3 sec. a mad boar in 2!
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    when i hog hunt I usually have my colt anaconda on my hip..
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    I too carry my .S&W .357 hog hunting. If were running traps its serving backup to my .22. And if were deer hunting its backup to whatever I decided to field that day. usually my .44 mag leveraction.
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    Nope! Read your states hunting regulations. It will lay our for you the leagal methods for taking game. And a knife, of any kind, won't be on that list. I think that some states might view hogs as scavengers, and then the rules might not apply.
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    i don't think you read my post.

    I'm not talking about taking game with a knife. i'm talking about :

    A, having a knife on my person while hunting.. ( pretty common )

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    B, legslities of someone hunting with a rifle that had a bayo fixed and extended on it. IE.. fixed for charge.. etc.

    soundguy
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    This is the same question I had. Thanks for the replies guys.
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    think about it for a bit,,
    .22 for rabbits, squirrel on the table and lil varmits,, 30 to 50 grain bullets/
    6mm Rem, (243) for every thing in between,, 55 to 110 grain bullets/
    30-06 for all the bigger stuff,,100 to 220 grain bullets/
    those 3 calibers will cover all the bullet weights for almost all concievable needs,, if u need to stop a tank well then ?? run and hide or get out the canons
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    on a slight tangent but, Gerber has a beautiful skinning knife (fixed blade) for $18! Had to share.

    [​IMG]

    saw it yesterday in the PX at Schofield Barracks on my trip to Hawaii this week, probably a bit more in other places but pretty impressed with the low price; looks like a good knife even for that cheap.

    I think we should pick a best caliber by weapon type, one for pistol, shotgun and rifle.

    So IMO, it's a tie between .45 ACP or .357 mag for pistol

    still .308 for rifle or all around caliber

    and of course 12g for shotties.
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    Technically thats not a tie as .45acp would be king of pistols and .357 would be king for revolvers. Then again there are some fantastic .45 acp revolvers out there, and coonan and Desert eagle both offer excellent .357 mag pistols. so on second thought youre right about the tie..
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    Hey what happened to the 45lc? it is better than the 357 mag! I love the 357 dont get me wrong but the 45 lc just plain out does the 357 all day long!:eek:
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    well that depends on what youre comparing hunter..

    Modern .45 colt loaded to ruger pressures then hell yes it out performs the .357. but original .45 colt compared to .357 mag doesnt hold a candle to the performance of the .357 mag. Comparing modern .45 colt to .357 mag is like comparing .44 mag to .357 mag.

    .45 acp is ballistically equal to the .45 colt (230 gr at 850 VS 255 gr at 800) and chambered in a way cooler gun (1911:cool:) revolver wise. id take the .45 colt in a S&W 625 or a moutain gun. Killing power wise you neednt much more than a 255 gr slug at 800 fps. and if you do you have 6 shots.
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    yeah, old .45 LC is like throwing a rock, with the newer high pressure capability, it's a freakin' cannon.

    .357 punches like no other! 125gn moving at 1900 fps is hard to argue with for a medium handgun cartridge.
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    and recoil is less.
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    JLA, when you say the 45apc is ballistically equal to the .45 colt (230 gr at 850 VS 255 gr at 800), you are of course comparing to a cowboy load! The most common factory loads for the .45 Colt give a 225 grain lead HP bullet a muzzle velocity of 960 fps and an energy of 460 ft. lbs. Or a 250-255 grain lead bullet a MV of 860 fps and a ME of 410 ft. lbs http://www.chuckhawks.com/45Colt.htm

    lets pleasecompare apples to apples ..ok? and even though the 357 does have a highrt muzzel vel, it is using a much lighter bullet weight... which would you think is more painful and damaging to be hit by..a 1 lb hammer at 100 fps (357) or a 6 lb hammer at 70fps? (45lc)

    the 6 lb even being slower will do much more damage and over a wider area than the 1 lb hammer! thei shows up even better in balistic gel! thats why the military went with the 45apc over the 357..damage pure and simple! heavy and slow creats more damage than fast and light!
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