Who would you sacrifice? Moral dilemma

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  1. GunnyGene

    GunnyGene New Member

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    Back in WWII, Churchhill was faced with a decision that involved sacrificing the town of Coventry, in order to protect other more strategically important goals. The Nazi's obliterated the town.

    Given today's world what would you do in similar circumstances?

    On a more local level, since many here are concerned with SHTF scenarios, what would you decide if you had to make that kind of decision? These are the kind of decisions that a commander/leader has to make. Are you up to it?
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    rcairflr Well-Known Member

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    As a leader, you have to make tough decisions based on the data at hand.

    Our current POTUS on the other hand, just bows to the other leaders.
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    Don't mean drive the point too hard, but you didn't answer the question. Let's make it more personal:

    Scenario:

    The S has hit the fan and you and your younger brother (or neighbor, etc. ) have decided to bug out. You don't have vehicles so you're on foot. You each have a wife and 4 kids, 2 boys, 2 girls each to make it simple. All kids are between 13 and 18. You are the leader. Who will you put on point and flanks; or if in defense, who will you choose to man a couple of listening posts a hundred yds or so from your position? Knowing that those you choose are in the greatest danger.
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    You're giving 2 different scenarios. I'm sure Churchill had time to weigh the pros and cons. If I had to choose and I came up with the same decision, I would certainly try to evacuate if possible.
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    I would try to evaluate all the options in whatever time I had, but in the end I would go on the side of overall mission accomplishment. Even before the question is further expanded on, yes, even if I had loved ones in the target area. Sometimes the accomplishment of the mission is bigger than anything on your personal agenda.

    I believe Churchill made this decision under exactly these circumstances. Without going back and digging up some old stuff, or doing new reasearch which I'm not willing to do just now, I THINK Churchill had some people in that town.

    It was not a decision made lightly.

    Also, he did not have time to evacuate, these decisions never happen if you have time to take some other action.

    It's like calling in friendly fire "Danger Close" to your or your men's position.... It is usually the only, or one of only two options.
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    The reason Churchill "let" the Germans bomb coventry was to keep siecret that their codes had been broken.
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    well my kids are 21,16,9,7,5,4 and 3.
    one boy all girls. the 4 and 3 year old are the only ones that have not ben traind with fire arms.
    so my choices are easy.
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    I am going to do it John Wayne style. When the time comes I am going to bunker down and hold my position. I don't run! Then, I will out last the surrounding and take out the intruders and collect their weapons. If I die protecting my home at least I died fighting and not running. There are elderly around me that could use some comfort against looters, and I don't like looters. There is business to be taken care of in times like those. In the French Indian war the men that fought with George Washington were seasoned veterans. In that day is when men stood in a single line, drew their long arms and fired at the shout of the commander. We laugh at that today but if you think about it, those men stood and fought that way because of what they believed in. I don't think I will bug out.

    Remember; Praise the Lord, now pass the ammunition.
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    So the Sacrifice would be me.
    I am the first line of defence when it comes to my family and friends. No exceptions!
    They are my back up. if they get past me.
    But thats just it. If i run out of ammo, I will chew some ones nuts off to protect them.
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    The EU the UN all the socialists all the marxists all the islamists , yeah that'd solve a heap

    sacrife em all if no sacrifice needed invent one and cleanse the planet
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    I would sacrifice Washington DC. to save the rest of the Country.
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    get the good folks out first ..
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    76Highboy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Those are my thoughts exactly. Who am I to sacrifice anyone? Like I say, I will dig in and fight the good fight while the SHTF "BOB" guys are running around the streets. That's what I believe.
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    Reminds me of Abraham asking God to spare Sodom for even 10 good men. :rolleyes:
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    Well this is not really a issue as to the majority of people I am already bugged out way up here in the woods. I do have 3 cabins WAY out in the woods ( hunting camps ) that could be used for such a purpose if needed. As it stands I have a LONG driveway that is nothing more then a path to a passer by the home and building can not be seen from he road. While I am not a prepper I have plenty of food we have canned form the garden and 3 freezers full of meat. But this is why we live here. It is nice to have a place where you shooting a 50bmg in the yard can not be heard by anyone but you..
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