Wht would you sign a petition at whitehouse.gov

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  1. carver

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    I don't think the commies that started that petition care where we get deported to, so long as we get deported!
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    Attempts at, or aspirations of, secession from the United States have been a feature of the country's politics since its birth. Some have argued for a constitutional right of secession and others for a natural right of revolution. The United States Supreme Court ruled unilateral secession unconstitutional while commenting that revolution or consent of the states could lead to a successful secession.
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    I don't wish to offend anyone, but here's my take.
    Ok, you signed the petition and you have 'cojones'.
    As I pointed out in another post, you have now gotten the attention of who knows who or what, and you have lost the advantage of anonymity, however slight it may be.
    You gave up tactical advantage for what?
    To flip the "man" the finger? Gutsy, I'll give ya that.
    "Hello, I.R.S. admin?. Yes I need to speak to....., the Pres has a special request."
    "Hello, (name of State Police here), we have reason to believe that a certain person may or may not represent a threat to the President, and would like some background info on this person just to be safe."
    Before, you were a name among tens of thousands (more?) of 4473's, now your at the top of the list.
    Yep, ya got 'cojones', to be sure.
    I might also add that considering the amount of paranoia on here, justified and otherwise, I'm surprised that any here would do such a thing.
  4. 45nut

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    What al45 said.

    When the time comes, I will mutually pledge to my fellow patriots my Life my (small) Fortunes, and my sacred Honor.

    This petition, however ain't the time or place to declare. And to be blunt, I think the King had just a tad more honor than these snakes in charge or at least he wasn't quite as nefarious as our current masters.
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    They have to prove that "whoever" signed the petition is the real person that did it since Im assuming these people are doing this over the internet. Also what if someone else put some other persons name and information to use to be able to sign the petition?
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    I am supprised at you folks! Do you really believe what you are posting? If you guys really think that any thing will come of this then you are really scared! They have you so scared that you are now trying to hide! Think about it for a minute! Will any of these States really try to secede based on the petition? And just like you, my name is probably already on several watch lists!
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    They must of took it serious if it was on the news. It was on the news right?
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    There are only two ways to secede from the Union.

    1. Through legal action.

    2. Throught civil war, if you win.

    The petition is not official, it's just a way to show that you disaprove of where this Country is headed.

    Do you believe that the voting on the 6th was rigged? Did you vote? Better keep your head down!
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    Yeah I voted for Romney. I wouldnt doubt that there was voter fraud going with Obama's side :mad:
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    Yea, we can look at it this way and we can stay hidden in fear. The Gov. has every one of ours information, where we live, how we vote, everything. Signing a petition may or may not bring more attention to you, I dont know for sure. What I do know is that its time we do something. Its time we take a stand for what we believe in and not be afraid. I am not going to live paranoid that the feds are coming to get me. I havent done anything wrong. Voicing my belief on a petition is not illegal. I will take my chances. We all better start taking our chances, the liberals are and they are winning. I am sick of them winning.
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    Scared?! Hidden in fear? No, not at all. I did post as to the tactical aspects of this.
    There are also family considerations.
    Paranoia? Possibly, but I am far less concerned with that flunky I spoke of.
    This IS the big league ya'know.
    Can anyone here REALLY believe that that kind of power won't push those people to do things that lesser people on the totem pole wouldn't consider?
    Gun Guys talk about being on a list and all, so what?
    There are probably many lists, overseen by those lessor flunkys, but why put yourself on HIS list?
    That's all I'm saying, it's just surprising to me.
    Perhaps it's sign of people reaching the end of their rope.
    It is frustrating, maybe that's it.
  12. tcox4freedom

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    I posted this in another forum-

    If the FG were smart they would allow red states to form their own country. I'm more than convinced, something beneficial for all concerned can be worked out; "IF" the focus is placed on the right things.

    For Instance:
    We can focus on a peaceful citizen exchange where the new "Conservative States of America" can get all the "conservative" minded people that currently live in the more socialist areas of the country; and we can give them all the people that voted for Obama. :D

    Obama gets his socialist nation where he can stay in power; and we get to keep a FREE "Constitutional" republic! Those that want the government to care for their every need will get their wish; and People who desire to be more "self-dependent" will be able to do so freely. :thumbsup:

    (Not to mention, a simple "citizen" exchange would do wonders for cities that have lost their workforce and have bad housing situations.) :thumbsup:

    It would give a much needed boost the the US economy by instantly decreasing the dependence of the VERY expensive entitlement programs. (It would absolutely save Social Security by taking MILLIONS off the rolls!) :thumbsup:

    By allowing the formation of the "Conservative States of America", it would give the USA additional import/export dollars and give them a strong & effective ally in this part of the world; while decreasing the military spending the administration wants to cut anyway. Selling military bases and government owned lands to the newly formed "Conservative States of America", would give the USA additional needed revenue to boost the economy. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    There truly would be a lot of Win-Win for everyone concerned if they would take this seriously; and allow the "Red" states to "peacefully" secede. (If done right Obama would be considered a genius and would surely be inducted as the USA's POTUS Emeritus.) :rolleyes:

    It's really a win-win for everyone! :dancingdots:

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  13. Dog Soldier

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    If you are in fear of your government deporting you for a disagreement? Then consider the facts. The facts are during a "Purge" they arrest the opposing party. That means if you are a registered voter and not a member of the ruling party they already have your name. :bleh:
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    Carver you forgot to mention that your a Texan. Everyone knows obama hates Texas and Texans. lol As many have pointed out when you enlisted your on file with the FBI prints and all you info is still with the military. And you know the gov. is checking all these talk forums, facebook, etc. So were marked. What else is new. If the socialist gov. wants a fight let it start here.
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    Each State has the option to "opt out of the union" so to speak, a talk radio program I listen to went over this last night, I also heard people from the liberal island of Austin have started their own petition to not be part of TX,

    The TX Gov has already said he see's no reason to change anything, TX, or any other state will never secede, why? Because then TX, for example would become it's own country, like it was before it was forcably taken away from Mexico, well what's wrong with that? you say,

    Well it's a long list, but here's a few reasons why it won't happen,

    Good: no taxes to the Fed Gubmint,
    Bad: no millions or billions of $ FROM the Fed G,
    Bad: you are now subject to import/export taxes,
    etc. etc.,

    Texans are mighty proud of their state, just as folks are of their own home state, but Texas doesn't have every thing you need to move forward as it's own country, for example, where are you going to get basic building supplies? like lumber, from the scraggly pines in E. TX?, how long is that going to last, guess it will have to be imported, and taxed/tariffed till it hurt's, what about copper and steel piping/products etc. etc., are you going to drink only Lone Star? the single most absolute worst swill (I can't even call it beer) ever created? or pay double for imported beer,

    Hey, Mexico called, they want part of their country back :D sorry, couldn't resist,

    I have nothing against TX, I lived in San Antonio for 10 yrs, Texan's, in general, are some of the finest folks I've ever met , I've worked in at least 25 different states, there are fine folks in every one of them, no state has it all, or is the best, each has it's positive's and negative's, every one on them.

    And no other state will secede either, even though they have the option, for many more reason's than I mentioned above,
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    Well lookie there Mr. Joe B from Washington DC signed the Texas petition.


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    What you could see is an increase in IRS audits for the people that sighed. That how they do things. You forget you even sighed this and 4 or 5 months latter you get hit with an audit. Next thing you know you spend the next 5 years trying to clear it up.

    They can seize your bank accounts house cars and any property you own. Even your guns. I have seen this happen to friends so don't tell me it cant happen.
  19. AR guy

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    I agree with most on signing the petition but the thing is, if you sign it then your letting them bastards know who to put on one of their BS list. Everyone who signs it will be put on the no fly list, terrorist watch list etc. we need to band together and stay unknown.
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  20. Appliancedude

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    I stopped reading the posts cause they were annoying me. If you are scared of being on a watch list from our government, contact Shooter45 AKA Sam, and have him former guest you. Cause guess what brainiacs, YOUR ON A WATCH LIST IF YOU HAVE POSTED TO THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is not a locked site, anyone can view it, they are reading this very thread. Stay scared if you want, I'm done. I am not scared of this government. I am a true American. When the time comes, and it is coming, I will stand with those on the right.

    They already know who we are, where we are, and have all the pertinent info on us. How many registered guns we have, and they have compiled how many you have inadvertently mentioned on here that aren't registered.

    If your scared stop posting here. Every post you make they read. YOUR WARNED
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