Why are M1A's so expensive?

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  1. azimuth

    azimuth New Member

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    I have an older M1A that has been a fine rifle. Although I have several M1's, the M1A seems to be a more accurate shooter for me. While today's prices are pretty steep, the M1A's seem to hold their value well enough that you shouldn't lose much on it if you decide to sell it somewhere down the road.
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  2. Fast Forward

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    Up Date It,s Here,,,my New National Match with the SS Barrel and a Wood stock

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  3. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Very nice. Time to see how hot that barrel will get. :)
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    Sweet..... have fun. Here's something you might think about down the road.. This is my light load out for the M1A, it's 5+1-20 round mag's of .308 168gr "one mag" has 5 rounds APIT mixed in, Glock 20 in a Blackhawk CQC Serpa 6+1-15 round mag's of 10mm 180gr... half HP and half FMJ, 1 Bud Nealy 5" pesh-kabz knife, 1 SOF Tactical Tourniquet, normally I have a Garmin 650 GPS and Quik-Clot Combat Gauze, with a Russel Chest Seal in the center, shoulder and back panel area of rig.. The rig comes from Tactical Tailor who is just out side of JBLM
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  5. aa1911

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    why? because they can do this with iron sights and some average reloads:

    100m prone supported

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    and they never jam. Best gas rifle ever made to date yet IMO
  6. Popeye79

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    Why so expensive? There are three main reasons:

    1. How they are built and manufactured. Modern "battle rifles" use stamped steel parts. Stamping is a quick and relatively cheap manufacturing process. The Garand style action requires forged and machined parts. These are slow and expensive manufacturing processes.

    2. Springfield has a single M1A/M14 production line, using slow forging and stamping operations Thus supply is limited. Limited supply generally equals high price.

    3. Springfield is the only manufacturer of the M1A/M14. Even though the patents expired long ago, no other manufacturer produces this design. And this is probably because the required forging/machining equipment is expensive and since most modern battle rifles use stampings, the cost of the forging/machining equipment can't be spread out over other guns. Thus Springfield does not have to compete with other manufacturers for production of this gun design. Limited supply produced by a monopoly supplier almost certainly equals high price so long as there is demand. If demand drops, Springfield MAY drop their price to try and increase demand.

    But how much demand is there really for a rifle based on the Garand action? There are LOTS of modern semi-auto guns chambered for the .308 based on the Stoner and the Kalashnikov actions. And those modern guns (which make extensive use of stampings) are going to be inherently cheaper to manufacture than a gun based on the Garand action. So don't expect the M1A to EVER be able to compete on price. That's just not going to happen for the reasons cited above.
  7. MSGT-R

    MSGT-R Active Member

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    Accuracy and historical significance.

    I just bought one on sale for my husband. Cost me $1500 in CA money for a walnut stock version. A heavy weapon, but my husband is loving every minute of it. It was his weapon when he first joined the Corps, just like the M16 was mine.

    I got him a bayonet and a military-type sling to go with it. :D
  8. aa1911

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    springfield is not the only manufacturer, LRB is another major one. Just checked their prices again today, holy camoly!!! better save up $3k if you want one of theirs.

    $2 will net you a nice SA though. Totall worth it IMO.

    Off the line M1A's will produce MOA accuracy without any changes in most cases. Just about anything else will require some serious upgrades and work to achieve the same inherent accuracy.
  9. Popeye79

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    You're right, and I stand corrected.

    BTW, Norinco produces an M1A/M14 clone. And if you can find a dealer that carries it, the Norinco sells new for under $1000. From all reports its an excellent clone and uses a forged rather than a cast receiver. However it's built to metric specs, so all the screws etc are metric sized and use metric threads. Also I've heard that the Chinese wood used in the stock is good quality, but ugly.
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    They have 2 at my local gun store. One walnut stock and one synthetic. The synthetic one will be my next purchase.
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    mjp28 Well-Known Member

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    Facinating info, nothing like the original M1 Garand and M1 Carbine stories from WWII. I wonder how many went home with their GI owners...or others?

    My father-in-law was good with his Garand but was glad to get out of the hell holes in the Pacific.
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