WHY is it done?

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  1. 358 winchester

    358 winchester *TFF Admin Staff*

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    I have noticed that on several sites and numerous threads that the AR15, the AK47, the SKS and a lot of other weapons are being called ASSAULT WEAPONS by the members WHY? My dang baseball bat is an ASSAULT WEAPON if I use it to beat the crap out of someone!!! Are we starting to get members that just don't care or understand how much they are playing into the hands of both the media and the Brady bunch!! Gun owners should learn to call a pistol a pistol, a shotgun a shotgun and a rifle a rile. Or call them by make and model there are any auto-pistols in my home they 1911's or semi-auto's there are no DANG ASSAULT WEPONS they are 45 carbines M1 carbines M1 grands AK47 SKS AR15.
    Come on guys use the proper terms or don't say anything
    Of course that is just my two cents to each his own:mad:
  2. pinecone70

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    I've noticed it too, it bugs me.
  3. I completely agree Ron. "Assault weapon" is a military term that the anti-gun [expletive deleted] like to use because it sounds so dangerous to the uninformed. As you say, the term plays right into the hands of the [many expletives deleted] SOBs who want to ban them. :mad: :rolleyes:
  4. ampaterry

    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Point very well made, 358 -
    We must be ever vigilent NOT to engage in 'newspeak', lest we add credence to it and the powers that work for control of our minds.
  5. Gabob

    Gabob Well-Known Member

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    My understanding of the term today is that a true assault weapon has to have full auto capability.
    On the other hand a Brown Bess and a Trapdoor Springfield were assault weapons in their day
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    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I have DOUBLED before, but that is the first time I TRIPPLED!!
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    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Quadrupled???
  8. Alpo

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    An Assault RIFLE is a military term.

    Assault WEAPON is a non-existent thing that the anti-gunners made up. There is no such thing as an ASSAULT WEAPON. So, no, the Brown Bess and the Trapdoor Springfield were not ASSAULT WEAPONS.

    When people use the term ASSAULT WEAPON, instead of getting upset and saying, "No a real ASSAULT WEAPON would be fully automatic" (which is wrong), get upset and say, "There is no such thing as an ASSAULT WEAPON." If you are going to get upset about this, get upset for the correct reason.

    I think the supposed pro-gun people that use these terms use them in the mistaken belief that it makes them sound smarter/more experienced/tougher/braver/like a veteran/like a cop. It's the same as the people that cannot call a gun a gun, but must call it a WEAPON.

    For that matter, it's like the people that insist on using the term, "Handgun". Back in the 60s, the people that played the gun-games (PPC, mostly) started saying they shot "Handguns" instead of pistols. That way, everyone that heard them would know they were professionals:rolleyes:. Everyone that wanted to be thought knowledgeable started using the term, and the anti-gunners picked it up, and now everyone uses it. People look at you funny if you say you own pistols.

    As an aside, can you see "Pistol Control, Inc", getting anywhere?

    So please, people, do not use the following terms:
    Assault Weapon
    Saturday Night Special
    Pocket Rocket
    Cop-Killer Bullets
    Street Sweeper
    Alley Cleaner

    Call guns what they are. Guns. Pistols, rifles, shotguns. Guns.

    It ain't that hard.
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  9. TimeTraveler

    TimeTraveler New Member

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    Wikipedia:

    An assault weapon is a political term referring to any of a broad category of firearms including military-style semiautomatic rifles derived from assault rifles, some pistols, and some shotguns. Assault weapons are often similar in appearance to military firearms, but are capable of firing only once each time the trigger is pulled.


    TT
  10. Mjolnir

    Mjolnir New Member

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    In order to properly refer to firearms people would have to take the time to educate themselves on the subject, something that liberals repeatedly show they are unwilling to do on any political subject.
  11. Nighthawk

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    AMEN
  12. oldogy

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    Been one of my "hot buttons" for quite a while.:(:(:eek::eek: In fact, I raised the same question here or on another forum quite a while back.
    oldogy
  13. woolleyworm

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    +.02 and by the end of this collection we SHOULD have several thousand $$$ I don't even use the term jokingly.
  14. Prizefighter

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    I don't think I've ever used the term "assault weapon," although I unconsciously read it as "assault rifle." (It wasn't until I got to Pistolenschutze's first post here that I realized we were talking about a difference.)

    So gurus, is the term "assault rifle" ok when referring to the class that AK-47s, M4s, M16s, etcetera, fall in? Or maybe we should invent a new term to combat the "assault weapon" vibe. :D Freedom implement?
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  15. Mosin_Nagant_Fan

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    Because we all know that those weapons get up and beat people up.:rolleyes:
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    'Assault Rifle' is a term used to describe military rifles capable of firing in a fully-automatic fashion. 'Assault Weapon' is a term that Joe Biden and the media drummed up in 1993 to stir support for the so-called 'assault weapons' ban that was made part of the 1994 Crime Bill. 'Assault Weapon' was an invented term that politicians used to loosely characterize many guns by their features and other outward appearance cues. It had little to do with function. Hitler was probably the first to use the propagandisti term 'Sturmgewehr' which translated closely to 'Storm Rifle', and was used to incite fear into his enemies, much like the term 'Blitzkrieg' for 'lightning war'. The term 'assault weapon' is a propaganda tool. When so-called 'assault weapons' are banned, expect 'sniper rifles' (aka: deer rifles) to be the next target for elimination. The term is simply a propagandist tool. No legitimacy should be given to the term by real firearms enthusiasts. :rolleyes:

    Now, while we're on the subject, I have the same problem with the 'Pre-Ban Forum' on TFF. The term 'Pre-Ban' implies that there was a reason for the ban. We all know there wasn't a reason. The weapons banned in 1994 were used in less than 0.25% of all violent crime and only 1.4% of all firearms crime. People list weapons in that forum that were made after 2004 when the ban expired. That gives a negative image to those weapons and implies that they somehow sneaked through the cracks of legality. Nothing could be further from the truth. That's just my humble opinion.
  17. kutaho

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    Oh No,
    They'll be going after my rock next.

    and then the wife's bat.:eek:
  18. They might even confiscate your scalping knife, kutaho! :eek::D;):p
  19. Alpo

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    It has been done. I have been on boards where they call them, "Homeland Defense Rifles".

    Me, I continue to call the EBRs when talking to people I know and that I know are pro-gun. They know I am being sarcastic.

    When talking to people I don't know, or that don't know anything about guns, or that I know are anti-gun, I call them what they are. AR. AK. HK. Etc. But I never use the term Assault Weapon.
  20. kutaho

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    NO NO,:eek: Say rustic kitchen knife.;)
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