Why The Apology?

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  1. Zane71464

    Zane71464 Well-Known Member

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    At a time when our president and other politicians tend to apologize for our country's prior actions, here's a refresher on how some of our former patriots handled negative comments about our country.
    JFK'S
    Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when
    DeGaule decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaule said he wanted all US
    military out of France as soon as possible.
    Rusk responded,
    "Does that include those who are buried here?"
    DeGuale
    did not respond.You
    could have heard a pin drop.

    When in England ,
    at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the
    Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of
    'empire building' by George Bush.
    He answered by saying,
    "Over the years, the United States has sent many of
    its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom
    beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for
    in return is enough to bury those that did not
    return."You
    could have heard a pin drop.

    There was a conference in France
    where a number of international engineers
    were taking part, including French and American. During a break,
    one of the French engineers came back into the room saying, "Have you
    heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
    carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he
    intend to do, bomb them?"
    A Boeing engineer
    stood up and replied quietly: "Our carriers have three
    hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are
    nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to
    shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to
    feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand
    gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a
    dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and
    from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships;
    how many does France have?"You
    could have heard a pin drop.


    A U.S. Navy Admiral
    was attending a naval conference that included
    Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French
    Navies At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large
    group of officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
    Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a
    French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many
    languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, "Why is it that
    we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than
    speaking French?"
    Without hesitating,
    the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the
    Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't
    have to speak German."You
    could have heard a pin drop.

    AND
    THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...
    Robert Whiting,
    an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane.
    At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport
    in his carry on."You
    have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked
    sarcastically.Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France
    previously."Then
    you should know enough to have your passport ready."The American said,
    "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it.""Impossible..
    Americans always have to show their passports on arrival in France !"
    The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he
    quietly explained, ''Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in
    1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen
    to show a passport to."You
    could have heard a pin drop..
    If you are proud to be an American, pass this on!

    I am proud to be of this land, AMERICA
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    Hurryin' Hoosier New Member

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    The year is young, but this may well be one of the best posts of 2010.

    Well posted Fellow Buckeye
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    We in this United States of America don't seem united these days. Maybe we should change the name to Unappreciated States of America.
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    Under similar circumstances, I wonder what Obama would have said.

    Some sort of apology I suppose. Couldn't say the press wouldn't report it.
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    to para-quote the much referenced R A Heinlein:

    "when people's within a nation begin to identify within sub-groups foremost rather than as citizens of the nation at large: its time to move on, that country is dieing."

    unlike L Long, we can't yet hop a passing space craft for another planet.

    Zane....great quotes for a time when leaders lead. not bowed.
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    This is beautiful!
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    Love this!
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    Good post. I bought this shirt quite awhile ago. I hope that it is on topic.:eek:

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    Interesting post, I have read ones like it before and it is fun. But it is hyperbole. The United States has a long history of taking much more land than it needed to bury the dead in wars or conflicts outside of our borders.

    When the USA started to expand west and south, we encroached upon Native American and Spanish territory in Florida eventually taking much more land than required to bury our dead. When Louisiana was purchased from the French, we had to forcibly take it from the Indians living there. When Americans moved into Texas with their slaves, they took it from Mexico and form their own union after being refused statehood for a while. American citizens used the US Navy to back their takeover in Hawaii and ask for annexation.

    Guam, Philippines and Puerto Rico were taken in over after wars with their "owners" and in the case of the Philippines, American soldiers killed about 200,000 Filipinos to keep it.

    Ranb
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    Ranb, you are a happy little camper aren't you. Do you like anything about our country? Do you like your mother? Sounds like you weren't breast-fed long enough, or at all.

    There are many other countries you could take your sunny disposition and cheery views.

    You probably torture small animals, and boo the Pastor in church. Have many friends?
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    I agree here red, this is another of his happy posts. I think I will go a little further and say that he should probably join the ranks of the obozo administration. They too are un-american.
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    I am happy most of the time. I do not go to church, do not need anyone telling I should pray. Leave my mother out of this unless you want her to kick your whiny ass. There are obviously some things wrong with this country, Living in denial or forgetting history is not the way to fix them. I am not that stupid.

    Ranb
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    Which one of my "happy posts" posts are you referring to? The ones where I asked forum members not to lie to promote their warped vision of what kinds of firearms Americans should not be allowed to own? The ones where I promoted the legal and safe use of every firearm in this great country? Got a link? Don’t be shy, stick your neck out and see if you got the guts to be specific.

    Yeah, that is right genius; I am paying $200 taxes straight to the Obama white house every time I make a silencer. That fortune is really going to prop up his stupid policies and make people forget all of the ridiculous promises he made to get elected. It is too bad that are so many people in this forum who are ready to talk down to a person just because they do not support a silly urban myth that someone concocted and passed off as the truth.

    Forgive me for having a few brain cells that are still working after 20 years of service in the military.

    Ranb
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    I have not read a positive post from you yet. You criticise others ideas, and throw blame around. You question others intelligence, and ethics, on the forum but list no answers to problems you percieve. Why don't you help us make things better by listing positive means of making people more informed. No one can effect positive effects alone. Try to find a common ground, with us, and let's go from there.

    I'm all for making sound decisions, and positive change. I think working together accomplishes those goals.

    Common ground is what we need, a base for improvement, and teamwork.
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