Would you buy it?

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  1. the morning light

    the morning light New Member

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  3. mrkirker

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    Nope. Electric cars are not an answer, only a transferance of a problem.
  4. ponycar17

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    Amen. There's no free meal there. ;)
  5. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    That looks like it could be that final nail for the coffin.
  6. Bobitis

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    +1

    One evil vs another.

    My power is hydro. Most of the rest of the country is not.
    Burn oil or burn coal?

    Which is worse?

    Each step in the production of energy is a step backwards.
    Burning coal to charge batteries is counter productive.

    The laws of physics say that it takes energy to create energy.
    Coal to electricity is one step
    Coal to electricity to battery is two steps.
    Wasted energy.

    And we wonder why were going downhill.:rolleyes:
    Sadly, the greenies and the gov are all for it.

    How does that work?
  7. ponycar17

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    There are some people that are just sadly misinformed and they mean well based on what they're told by those who supposedly know. Others however, have very different motives than the rest of us in how they feel this country should move - and it ain't in a positive direction.
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    Why would I buy it OOOOOOBAAAAAAAMA is going to get rid of those evil coal
    plants.

    Maybe I could use my gas generator to charge it up
  9. mrkirker

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    Far too few, have realized that the days of cheap energy are over!
  10. ponycar17

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    The irony in that statement is that the Volt has a gas generator on board. :D
  11. the morning light

    the morning light New Member

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    Ford is building the European Focus here in the US. In Europe they put a three cyl. diesel in it which gets up to 67 miles per gallon. I would buy one but I don't think Ford is going to put a diesel in the US version. I won't buy the Chevy Volt because it really doesn't serve my driving style. Maybe commuters will buy it.
  12. Farmerjon

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    1981 Ford Escort cars and Ranger pickups had a 3 cylinder diesel that would regularly and easily get 45+++ MPG. Today's electronics surely could make it 70 MPG couldn't they???? But noooooooooooo, electric. What a joke. Do they honestly think people are going to let you plug in and run their electric bill up so you can get home??? We owned an electric golf cart once, man, expensive batteries, always needed charged, this and that. Train technology, a small gas or diesel engine spinning a generator. Most self sufficient and less overall pollution than all these batteries will be. Sorry, rant over.
  13. 22WRF

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    I had a 84 B2200 Mazda diesel pick up that got over 50 MPG The Ford Ranger was the same truck
  14. Willie

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    This says it best. It seems that most people today think electricity comes out of the wall and don't realize that most power is generated by coal plants. I have heard said that it takes 20 lbs of coal to generate enough power to burn a 100 watt light bulb for 1 hour. If that is true how much coal is needed to charge a electric car? And this is cleaner how?
  15. Eddie N

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    I want something that can get out of the way quickly if needed. There's another problem. All this green junk is dangerous. The cars get smaller so they can go farther on a gallon of gas (or whatever), but the smaller they are, the worse your chances in a wreck. I'd rather have a car that gets maybe 12 mpg and at least have a chance of surviving than a tin can that goes 100, but gets crushed by that big F250.
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    Today it's global warming...ugh huh humm... excuse me..."climate change" because of that pesky carbon dioxide...you know...that stuff plants and trees crave. So instead we must switch to these battery laded micro cars. Are batteries "green?" HELL NO. Look at the energy needed to continuously produce these things. Then factor in the other energy required to charge them. THEN since it is a battery and all batteries have a cycle span (life span but instead of time, it is the charge and discharge cycle) these batteries will need replacing and then occupy a landfill somewhere near you.

    As much as I wanted the new Camaro, I passed because I knew the death of GM was evident. Without constant tax payer infusion, GM will die and it won't come with a roar from it's legendary small block power, but rather with a whisper from one of these glorified golf carts.
  17. Eddie N

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    Golf cart is exactly right!
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    When GM got in bed with Barry, he gave GM a full-blown case of corporate AIDS. GM is dead, but they haven't filled in all the blanks on the death certificate yet.
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    H E double hockey sticks - NO ! GM is blacklisted by me forever. They're run by scum suckers. I feel for the honest Americans working for them and trying to earn a living, but the gov't should have let them fold. Just how does throwing billions at a lost cause help anyone??? They made their bed and now the taxpayers have been forced to finance their "new" one since they didn't quite care for the results of their greedy tactics. They are so tight up the politicians butts that it is definetly not funny. Any resonable politician ( if there is such a thing) would have shown them the door and given it a swift kick. GM is done for. ok..... rant over :mad:
  20. Maximilian II

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    I'd prefer an efficient diesel myself. Make the fuel at home, I've got the recipe for good homemade diesel somewhere.
    Doesn't matter really, I can't afford either!

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