polishshooter
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I've asked this a couple of different forums, but maybe somebody will know here in GD...
I bought 4 cans of WWII GI Bore Cleaner recently, to clean after some of my corrosive ammo shooting in my CRs...
Used some today, and it was a milky white...opened another can it too was milky white....
Is it SUPPOSED to be white? I thought it was supposed to be brown...I THINK I used this stuff years ago, but don't remember that it was white....
Cans were sealed, one can the seal was kind of corroded, the other was clean...
Could it have moisture or water in it if it's not supposed to be white?
And if it DOES, do you think it is still OK to use to get the corrosive salts?
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ysacres
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(3/25/02 12:31:46 am)
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Possibly it could have frozen at some point, maybe stored in an unheated garage? freezing will change the molecular structure of some chemicals.
Dr. ysacre Ph.D.. in farm chemicals.
I'm having my puter fixed,.This 0 is upside down.
berto64
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Polish, I have some of that stuff and it's all clear with a brown tint. Good stuff even if it is 60-70 years old. As long as the seal is good it should be good. I've never run into the milky situation before.
Good luck with your question.
spanky
Endeaver to Persevere
AGunguy
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(3/25/02 8:03:13 am)
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I've had some little cans of that stuff for over 30 years, and it smells like strong toxic chemical. It is redish brown in color.
Wife hates the smell.
Gunguy
Xracer
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(3/25/02 8:46:07 am)
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GI Bore Cleaner varies in color according to it's ingredients......which vary according to the manufacturer.
Back when I was in Navy Boot Camp, I spent a week cleaning firearms at the firing range. We used a lot of this stuff (it came in quart cans). Some looked like 1% milk, some was reddish, some was brown. When I asked about this, I was told that it's not made to a set formula, but rather to a performance specification, so different makers can use different ingredients to meet the performance specs.
Looks like you got the kind that was made by Elsie, the Borden cow.
polishshooter
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(3/25/02 9:02:31 am)
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Thanks X, that's what I was kind of looking for, somebody who used it in real life (when it was "new." )
It DOES look like "1% milk..."
And it doesn't smell THAT bad, in fact I kinda like it...but then I get off on a mixture of #9 and 3-in-1 oil....
It's all the same lot number, and all the OD cans say Banner Mfg Co at the bottom, so probably all four cans are the same...
"Don't hear him call you an @sshole, hear WHY he's calling you an @sshole." -------- From "A Season on the Brink"
Xracer
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(3/25/02 9:40:34 am)
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Well, none of it smells particularly good, but, if I remember correctly....the reddish stuff was the worst-smelling of the lot.
They all seemed to work well, though.
AGunguy
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(3/25/02 10:44:16 am)
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In a test barrel let it soak for 24 hours, but don't test a prize rifle or handgun...use some old clunker to see if it will remove the fowling.
Good luck.
GG
warpig883
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(3/25/02 7:28:36 pm)
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Have you tried tasting it?
I know for a fact that when I was in the Army some of the chow tasted like bore cleaner so it stands to reason the Army used the same vendors for the milk as they did for the bore cleaner.
Might be a little labeling mixup.
Try it on yer cherios and get back to us
AGunguy
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(3/25/02 9:02:43 pm)
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I believe those bore cleaner GI containers have the friendly skull and cross bones somewhere on its side.
DON'T TRY TASTING IT!
However, it is good for an enema if you are constitpated. Cleans all type of fowling in the bore.
GG
warpig883
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Milk enema
hmmmmmmmm I wonder if that would cure butt hickies
AGunguy
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(3/26/02 9:46:00 am)
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Ugh! That is a bad visual...butt hickies.
And I just had my prunes.
GG
Xracer
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(3/26/02 10:30:48 am)
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Well, I've got to admit that the powdered milk they served us in the Navy did kinda look like the bore cleaner.....never compared the taste, though.
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(3/24/02 11:02:41 pm)
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I've asked this a couple of different forums, but maybe somebody will know here in GD...
I bought 4 cans of WWII GI Bore Cleaner recently, to clean after some of my corrosive ammo shooting in my CRs...
Used some today, and it was a milky white...opened another can it too was milky white....
Is it SUPPOSED to be white? I thought it was supposed to be brown...I THINK I used this stuff years ago, but don't remember that it was white....
Cans were sealed, one can the seal was kind of corroded, the other was clean...
Could it have moisture or water in it if it's not supposed to be white?
And if it DOES, do you think it is still OK to use to get the corrosive salts?
"Don't hear him call you an @sshole, hear WHY he's calling you an @sshole." -------- From "A Season on the Brink"
ysacres
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(3/25/02 12:31:46 am)
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Possibly it could have frozen at some point, maybe stored in an unheated garage? freezing will change the molecular structure of some chemicals.
Dr. ysacre Ph.D.. in farm chemicals.
I'm having my puter fixed,.This 0 is upside down.
berto64
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Posts: 227
(3/25/02 12:39:44 am)
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Polish, I have some of that stuff and it's all clear with a brown tint. Good stuff even if it is 60-70 years old. As long as the seal is good it should be good. I've never run into the milky situation before.
Good luck with your question.
spanky
Endeaver to Persevere
AGunguy
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Posts: 1599
(3/25/02 8:03:13 am)
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I've had some little cans of that stuff for over 30 years, and it smells like strong toxic chemical. It is redish brown in color.
Wife hates the smell.
Gunguy
Xracer
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 1883
(3/25/02 8:46:07 am)
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GI Bore Cleaner varies in color according to it's ingredients......which vary according to the manufacturer.
Back when I was in Navy Boot Camp, I spent a week cleaning firearms at the firing range. We used a lot of this stuff (it came in quart cans). Some looked like 1% milk, some was reddish, some was brown. When I asked about this, I was told that it's not made to a set formula, but rather to a performance specification, so different makers can use different ingredients to meet the performance specs.
Looks like you got the kind that was made by Elsie, the Borden cow.
polishshooter
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 3164
(3/25/02 9:02:31 am)
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Thanks X, that's what I was kind of looking for, somebody who used it in real life (when it was "new." )
It DOES look like "1% milk..."
And it doesn't smell THAT bad, in fact I kinda like it...but then I get off on a mixture of #9 and 3-in-1 oil....
It's all the same lot number, and all the OD cans say Banner Mfg Co at the bottom, so probably all four cans are the same...
"Don't hear him call you an @sshole, hear WHY he's calling you an @sshole." -------- From "A Season on the Brink"
Xracer
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 1884
(3/25/02 9:40:34 am)
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Well, none of it smells particularly good, but, if I remember correctly....the reddish stuff was the worst-smelling of the lot.
They all seemed to work well, though.
AGunguy
*TFF Staff*
Posts: 1601
(3/25/02 10:44:16 am)
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In a test barrel let it soak for 24 hours, but don't test a prize rifle or handgun...use some old clunker to see if it will remove the fowling.
Good luck.
GG
warpig883
*TFF Staff*
Posts: 2892
(3/25/02 7:28:36 pm)
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Have you tried tasting it?
I know for a fact that when I was in the Army some of the chow tasted like bore cleaner so it stands to reason the Army used the same vendors for the milk as they did for the bore cleaner.
Might be a little labeling mixup.
Try it on yer cherios and get back to us
AGunguy
*TFF Staff*
Posts: 1605
(3/25/02 9:02:43 pm)
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I believe those bore cleaner GI containers have the friendly skull and cross bones somewhere on its side.
DON'T TRY TASTING IT!
However, it is good for an enema if you are constitpated. Cleans all type of fowling in the bore.
GG
warpig883
*TFF Staff*
Posts: 2899
(3/25/02 10:44:49 pm)
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Milk enema
hmmmmmmmm I wonder if that would cure butt hickies
AGunguy
*TFF Staff*
Posts: 1615
(3/26/02 9:46:00 am)
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Ugh! That is a bad visual...butt hickies.
And I just had my prunes.
GG
Xracer
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 1888
(3/26/02 10:30:48 am)
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Well, I've got to admit that the powdered milk they served us in the Navy did kinda look like the bore cleaner.....never compared the taste, though.