WWII Walther PPK Value

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  1. tsmith7251

    tsmith7251 New Member

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    Thank you very much for the information. Now I will need to find a buyer or trader for it. I will see if I can find that book. I appreciate your help in this.
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    Hello tsmith,
    Your pistol was indeed manufactured in 1941. However the grips are not the right ones for this early pistol. The correct grips would be a brown/marble appearence. The black grips did not appear until early 1944 and on to war's end. The Reich's bank pistols came at the early stages of the PPK line, 1931,32 and 33. Both the front sight & rear were painted on these guns as well. When you say the pistol has the number on the bore do you mean end of the front of the slide in a circle pattern?
    The holster looks like a shoulder holster used by the banks, but all the ones I have seen are marked with the AKAH crossed rifles. Is there any markings on the holster?
    To give you an evaluation would be hard to do without getting this info from you. The grips will take about 350 off the gun. Those grips look awlfull nice, are you sure they are one peice or two?
    Hope this tad of info helps some & if further assist is needed you can call me at 304-877-6650 or email me at drbow50@yahoo.com?
    Kindest Regards
    Danny
    PS: Can you post a closer pic of the mag ext number?
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    Thank you Danny for the response. I tried to call you this morning but got no answer. The grips are one piece, I took it off to check because I was not sure, even looking at them. Both of the sites are painted on the gun red in the rear and white in the front. When I said the bore I miss spoke I was thinking of the stamp. The serial number is the same on the upper slide on the side. After closer look the holster looks to be altered since it looks like the original part was removed and the strap looks like it was put on. Could the grips have been original by chance? The reason I ask is that I know my grandfather and he would not have spent a penny on this gun. I also could not find any markings on the holster at all.

    Please call me if you have any questions at 281-513-5407

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  4. tsmith7251

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    Here is a picture of the painted sites and one of the stamp.

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    Danny thank you for the phone call and I am glad you could help me with the information you came up with. How did you find that this was a bank gun? I have been trying to find some information to back up my claim?
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    What is the correct term for the eagle stamp?
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    Thank you everyone for your help and getting me a value of this weapon. I have listed
    and hopefully it will allow me to purchase my next weapon.
    :)
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  10. vinman12

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    Danny,

    I am not sure if I am reading the above information correctly or not. I have a PPK, SN:404xxxK that is an eagle C. Your numbers above do not show the 400000 range.

    Any help is welcome.
    Vince
  11. Danny

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    :)Hi Vince,
    Your pistol was manufactured in 1944. It is a rare police pistol, being made that close to war's end. It should have black grips with the magazine having the Walther banner & 7.65mm under that. It should also have a small w stamped on the spline of the mag.
    If you have the holster and two numbered mags I could see well over 2500 or more in good condition. Hope this helps ya?
    Regards
    Danny
  12. marc79

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    I found one of these Walther PPK 7.65's while cleaning out my wife's Great Aunt's basement. My in-laws told me to keep it. SN 848117 It has the "crown over the N" mentioned in previous posts on this thread. However it has something else on the side that I didn't see in other pics that were posted. It has a design that has an "RZ" with an "M" below it. Is this significant? Is this worth anything? Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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    :):)Yes indeed it means something! Your PPK is a party leader RZM and manufactured in 1934 before the party leader went with the swastika & eagle on the grips. An RZM in good condition could bring over 2 grand if not more. On the other hand a party leader with real grips & not fake would be over 6. I have one of the first ones sn#804xxx and holster to match & I would not take over 3 for mine. Post a pic if you can?
    Hope this info helps ya?
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    Danny
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    Danny,

    Here are some pics I took this morning. They're not the greatest. If I knew more about guns I'd try to relay the condition. It looks really clean. It sat in a shoe box since at least 1993.

    Thanks,
    Marc

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    Hello Marc,
    That is a fine looking RZM & I would rate it 90% or better if I could see the grip strap. The holster in my opiinion is not from that time period, however I could be wrong. The reason I say this is that snaps were not used by the Germans until later on. Is there any markings or letters on the back of the holster & can you get a close up of the circle on the bottom half of it? I also wanted to point out that after I checked my little sn# book, your pistol may have been made in early 1935, notice I said maybe. Please get back to me on the holster pics, as you may have something very rare.
    Kind Regards
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    Danny,

    Below are a few more pictures. Two of them are zoomed in. Hopefully they're helpful. I have the pics but I'm at work now and the gun is at home so I couldn't take anymore pictures. If you want anymore pictures I'll have to take them when I get home.

    Thanks for all the help.

    Marc

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    Set your camera on the Macro mode and you'll get much clearer closeups.
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    Marc I must admitt the holster looks post war to me. The markings do not match any of the holsters from that era that I have or have ever seen. However I would like to see a better close up of the circle, if possible?
    Regards
    Danny:)
  19. streetscraper1

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    hey guys im new to this forum and ive been reading and doing alot of research but i still have a couple of questions...i father recently gave me a walther ppk that he has had for as long as i can remember and well i just wanted to see what you all could tell me about it...the serial number is 121052A ive seen that most serial numbers end with K so what does the A mean? oh and it has the crown over N and its in real good condition..its has some holster wear on the front and a couple of scratches on it but nothing major...im not wanting to sell it right now but times are hard so id like to know what the value is..thanks..i'll post some pics...oh and its chambered in 9mm kurz...or .380...
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  20. JBNUT

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    I just saw this very original PPK with a great story. I was wondering what the experts thought of the originality of the gun and yes of course the price.
    Yup, i am new here
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