You have been warned

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by 22WRF, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. 3/2 STA SS

    3/2 STA SS Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,577
    Location:
    Tampa Bay Area, FL
    SUPPLY AND DEMAND...you will never stop the flow of drugs into this country. When we did have troops along the border with weapons and a USMC Sniper shot an armed drug smuggler,who later turned out to be a teenager(with a gun that was not found after the fact) public outcry was '' get the troops off the border'' they are shooting kids etc...The last time I had to shoot someone I didn't verify his age-he a weapon and got it. It is simple. I wish our country would get a spine.It is a sad state if affairs along our southern border and to make it even worse we condone it. Think I am kidding-come to Florida-you had better know some Spanish. I don't even go to the Miami area any more.
  2. hogger129

    hogger129 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2009
    Messages:
    4,151
    The media also helps make it look like a "kid with a gun" was just some poor Mexican kid instead of a drug smuggler.

    If the media told the truth, people would probably be crying for military support on the border.

    I had an aunt and uncle and 2nd cousin that lived in Ft. Lauderdale and they call kept at least 5 handguns in their homes. I think that was also part of the reason why my cousin had that antique Tommy Gun in the glass cabinet. Always had a fully loaded drum magazine with .45ACP.

    All of them also had concealed carry licenses since the law went into effect there back in the late 80's.
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2010
  3. jedwil

    jedwil Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Messages:
    3,484
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    I like it....Time to do something......
  4. 3/2 STA SS

    3/2 STA SS Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,577
    Location:
    Tampa Bay Area, FL
    I am former law enforcement (12 years) and don't go anywhere in the state with out a pistol of some sort on my person.
  5. Hatch

    Hatch Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2010
    Messages:
    287
    Sorry to rain on your parade, but that could possibly be the exact opposite of what we need to do.

    Let's analyze what's REALLY happening shall we?

    What we have today is a modern version of PROHIBITION.
    What did we learn from PROHIBITION in the past? well..
    -- It FUNDED and basically CREATED the MAFIA in the US. (good job!)
    -- It served NO purpose other than to allow those who think they have the right to tell others what to do, how they can live their lives.

    Hmmm. Those aren't great starting points to look at our current "war on some drugs" are they?

    Why is alcohol legal but grass isnt? I'm sure numerous and uncountable dollars and agencies are involved in "funded" crime fighting which puts people in jail for non violent crimes like pot possession. So they have a vested interest in keeping it illegal.

    I know that statistics prove that when a police officer pulls over a car for a busted tail light, a registration violation or some other "minor" infraction, they have an increased chance of making a felony arrest.

    What I'm talking about is not ignoring the bad guys and also not making stoners into the cash cow of the prison system and it's unions and terror effects on our state budgets. Ohhh you dont want to vote for that TAX? OK, well, we'll just start releasing prisoners... only, as we have in fact seen here in CA, what we get is rapists and murderers released, so pot smoking ditch diggers can sleep in over crowded jails.

    I do not subscribe to the Libertarian view on legalizing ALL drugs! For TWO reasons...

    ONE: They can not both legalize and defund all the state sponsored programs at the same time, it's just not possible. So what we'd end up with is all the liberal programs for revolving door rehabilitation paid for with tax funds with a litany of the worst drugs imaginable now in main steam... for example crack and meth. I'm all for the legalization of pot and peyote and licking toads and smoking banana peels and what-the-hell-ever someone wants to do like that... but there are monstrosities that WE have created in science that were never intended to happen, and if any Libertarian wants to refute it, then please explain why Meth should be legal. We'll go round and round...

    TWO: Because of their all or nothing attitude, in both drugs and foreign wars, they leave many conservatives without a reason to join them. Yes they are pro 2A, yes they are pro pot, but you get a shitload of nasty in-laws when you get married to them.

    They might want to think about that... just a thought...

    Lets get back to busting and incarcerating all the dope smokers...

    How ****ing stupid is that? What is that costing us TODAY? how much will it cost when tomorrow is ten years away? That number has become an economy all of it's own.

    And for what? chuckleheads that want to eat nachos and watch Cheech and Chong movies?

    There's also mixed results on the legalization of drugs. If you look at Amsterdam they have some serious problems, but they also became the poster child of legal use with basically our US issue of illegal immigration, only it was drug users.

    Compare that to Lisbon... now all of a sudden, drug use is down... it's legal but it's down. Less money is spent on voluntary rehabilitation than either incarceration or forced intervention treatments before it was legal, lives are better, and it costs less. Hmmm....

    It's like beer in Germany. It's legal... so kids dont grow up with the stigma they have to have it... it's just not that big of a deal, so control themselves and everything will be fine...


    Seems like a no brainer to me...
  6. Hatch

    Hatch Former Guest

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2010
    Messages:
    287
    This is already solved... AZ (and other states) changed from charging DWI to DUI back in the 80's. Which isnt to say you cant still be charged DUI.

    The distinction makes it clear though... DUI requires a blood test, or a breathalyzer or some other such method to determine the exact BAC at the time of arrest...

    DWI is a police cars recorder showing a stoned... stoner... walking just as stupid as a drunk, and guess what, he or she, are not fit to drive and shouldnt have done it!!!

    That's the ticket people.... DUI. States do NOT need a blood or breathalyzer test to convict on alcohol, so why would they need it for pot?

    And let's just clear the air here once and for all, even if you don't like my argument... YOU STILL LOSE.

    The officers can just start writing "Wreckless Op" or whatever it's called in your jurisdiction. Instant 8 point ticket, no more license, and totally a "judgement call" so good luck fighting that one!
  7. Trouble 45-70

    Trouble 45-70 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    2,703
    Location:
    NE Ar. W. of Black River
    A drunk will kill you just as dead as a stoner when he crosses the center line at 70mph.
Similar Threads
Forum Title Date
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum now that the DC gun ban has been ruled unconstitutional Jul 30, 2014
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum holders been awfully quiet lately Nov 29, 2012
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum John Lott Has Been Saying It For A While .... Dec 1, 2011
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum Grandson must have been a Republican Jul 17, 2011
The Constitutional & RKBA Forum The Declaration Of Independence Has Been Repealed Apr 9, 2009

Share This Page