you think the arms treaty is bad ? how will you fight it with no net ?

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by jack404, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    as you know the US president in 2009 called for the unlocking of the internet , previously the USA ran the internet basically , well obozo is gonna hand it to the UN

    and what will that do ?

    The UN mandate on this states they can use what they control to further their agenda's and to monitor those who are against the UN agenda

    that means

    pro gun folks can and will be monitored and their communications suspended

    please read the bill of rights and see how the UN really is
  2. jedwil

    jedwil Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Sep 11, 2009
    Texas Hill Country
    PM'ing you, Sam, JLA and few others my land line number and cell number.

  3. 45silverback

    45silverback New Member

    Sep 28, 2012
    Control the net? Don't doubt it. Monitor... It's my assumption it is already being minitored. Which is why I say FAWK the un, Obozo, and the rest of them every chance I get. It's not for you gents to read. I'm picking a fight. I need to be in it and done, one way or the other before I'm to old to enjoy the last battle.
  4. GunnyGene

    GunnyGene New Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Where there's a will, there's a way. :)


    Only partly in jest. Communication between people cannot be stopped, or even controlled very well. Many dictators, and others, have tried for centuries but have always failed. If there's no net, there's ham radio, and dozens of other ways of communicating.
  5. 45silverback

    45silverback New Member

    Sep 28, 2012
    Absolutely correct Gunny. I never say anything here that I wouldn't say in public. This is not communication, this is entertainment.
  6. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2012
    yep.. i don't email anything I couldn't afford the average person to overhear.. etc..

    ;) not that i say anything that the average person would want to listen too though.. :)
  7. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    We all buy a VPN that doesn't keep logs. All encrypted, IP address is spoofed, no records.
  8. WHSmithIV

    WHSmithIV Well-Known Member

    May 3, 2012
    Moore, Idaho
    They monitor the net as much as they can but even the Cray supercomputers are able to only monitor a small % of the data flow. The algorithms used to flag messages for further checking look for key phrases that indicate potential terrorist threats etc.

    The fiber optics links are where they don't have much monitoring. The satellite links have the heaviest monitoring.

    The net won't be getting shut down, that for sure and the UN can't monitor anywhere near as much as the US government agencies can - most of the communications satellites are US satellites.
  9. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    no the UN will and has in place programs to
    1 monitor know troublemakers ( here thats me )
    2 reference there communications to other agencies
    3 place criminal or other charges against that person and others they associate with
    4 seek justice against such group via the host nations legal frame work

    you figure out what that means

    then read the article in the bill of right where if you dont agree with the UN you lose all the affor mentions rights and are a enemy
  10. nmckenzie

    nmckenzie Well-Known Member

    Aug 15, 2011
    Sitka, Alaska
    Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu's government required all individually owned typewriters to be registered, in the absurd belief this could limit communication and sharing of ideas between people. Didn't work out to well for him in the long run.
  11. Zhurh

    Zhurh Active Member

    Mar 19, 2010
    Upper Yukon, Alaska
    Somehow I believe they will have more to worry about than the internet if things turn bad and ugly as most of us envision down the road. 80 million gun owners or whatever the figure is would tend to overwhelm their capacity to subdue. Then add in the political upheaval from their actions; I just don't believe people would take it lying down. Ya know, the local Indians don't even give a hoot what the Feds say about how it's gonna be; they just ignore them and do what they have always done. The Feds leave them alone too; rather than have all of them stand up to them.

    If I ever see sites go down, then I will take it all more serious.
  12. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    how many Billion rounds of .40 did DHS IRS ( tax man with guns!!!) and FEMA buy ??

    trust me there ready to protect the infrastructure and government

    but thats about it

    when the UN hits full bore

    your on you own that way , and hey thats not such a bad thing after the initial kerfuffle from experience...

    until they try to regain control anyway ( they being the new order or what ever it will be

    anarchy can be rather polite if everyone is armed

    the first few days after we retook Phom Phen where very polite as even the kids had AK's and only gun fire was shop keeps shooting a shoplifter or similar

    it was after the Un arrived that it got nasty as they took then guns from the folks and only the crooks had guns again , then it got real dangerous for a while

    now the place is safer than Sydney on a friday after prayers

    cause now guns are every where again

    ( outside the cities you can carry a AK )
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2012
  13. hobby_mesa

    hobby_mesa Well-Known Member

    Aug 30, 2012
    In his 1st 2 weeks in office, jerko used the executive order to hammer roll your own tobacco with a $25/pound tax...much of the tobacco was grown/harvested and sold by Indians on the reservation. They used the moneys (in many cases) to fund healthcare for their people. I had a long conversation with the owner at the one I dealt with...the ATF was coming to them in days to inventory the tobacco already on the shelves and hand them a tax bill...even tobacco that was grown last year. The EO effectively shut down that industry...and it didn't matter one bit to the feds, o-jerk they were technically a "sovereign nation"...or the damage that he'd do. I bought a few thousand worth in advance and took other measures to avoid his actions.
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