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#1 ·
An older black lady friend brought a piece of junk (brand new unfired) Hi Point .40 S&W and wanted me to fire it. She had inherited it when her son died. I fired it four times. First shot the brass stove piped. Second round fired and third round hung up on the feed ramp. Fourth round and slide locked back. I can't get it to go forward. Removed magazine and I can get slight back an forth movement( maybe 1/16 inch but will not go forward into battery.. Other than tying a rope and using for a boat anchor, does anyone have a clue how to make slide go forward?
 
#10 ·
My 45acp carbine has yet to see its first hiccup.

I've run ball, swc hp truncated nose, everything from lead to jacketed, factory or my reloads. Heck, it even cycles reduced loads and drops brass right over your elbow... No fail To feed or extraction, or ejection issues.

Even puts holes in the spot I'm aiming at... Using factory iron sights.
 
#9 ·
Open it all the way and lock it open with the slide lock , remove the mag, pull the slide back and release the lock , it should release , we sold them at work I don't like them but plenty of customers buy them ,however they were just pulled from out shelfs because of not being compliant with NY safety standards along with the sccy pistols
 
#11 ·
If you are using the Gen 1 Magazines (red follower) and Hollow Point ammo, The gun is going to be Jam City. With the Gen 2 Magazines (Green Follower) HiPoint fixed this problem. When I am just plinking away with FMJ rounds I will use my 3 Gen 1 Mags, If I switch to Hollow Point I use the gen 2 mags without problems.
 
#13 ·
A good friend owns a LGS that over the years I've spent a lot of weekends in helping out. As a seller of many brands of firearms, Hi Point happens to be one. From what I witnessed, it was a bit of a gamble that a Hi Point going out the door was going to stay out the door. Quite a few would come back in with the purchaser complaining about them. Basically my standard procedure was to polish the feed ramp and then fire a few magazines of our surplus/test ammo (from estate purchases and not for sale) through them. Some came right around instantly and others came around after a couple mags were run through them but, they all went back out the door in a short amount of time with happy owners never to come back again.
IMO, a bit on the ugly side and a bit rough but, they are capable of operating just fine at a economical price point.
 
#22 · (Edited)
Actually if you don't want it send it to me and I'll pay the shipping. If you want to keep it, contact Hi-Point for repair. Might take a couple calls to get through if they are busy, but under the warranty it's not a might or maybe. They WILL repair or replace ANY failure no matter how many owners the gun has had. They have the ONLY truly UNLIMITED warranty in the business. The only thing you will have to pay is shipping to them, and when they send it back it will have a new mag with it! I have two and they were dead on out of the box. You need to polish the feed ramp and adjust the feed lips on the mag. Load mags and let them set for about a week to break in the mag spring. As for the lock back, you may have a broken firing pin or the firing pin spring, replace them and you will probably be fine. Guides for all of these can be found here: Hi-Point Firearms Forums, just google and you'll find it. They are a great bunch of people with all the advise you need.
 
#24 ·
Ok, I stand corrected. I just checked with a LGS friend who'e been in the business for 50 years or more, he's actually the guy I bought both of my Hi-Points from. He said the law is legit, it was enacted in about '72 for the main purpose of stopping sales of the old "Saturday Night Specials". It hasn't been enforced for at least 30 years or so. It seems we in IL have many laws "on the books" that aren't enforced. At least here in the downstate communities.
That said, Gabob, if you want to know anything you need to own a HP, look on the forum I mentioned above. You can just cruise it or you can join, it's free like here. I joined that forum when I was contemplating buying a HP, a LOT of good useful info and knowledgeable people there.
 
#26 ·
I know for a fact they are outlawed in Illinois. I was in Cabela's a few years ago and they had the Heritage on sale. I ask the guy behind the counter if they were legal for sale in Illinois as I was going to buy one. He called corporate and they pulled them off the shelf.
 
#28 ·
Yeah, take a look at the last post from me. Old law from 1972, apparently not really enforced except maybe in the Chicago area. I live in West Central IL and I went to our LGS today, had a Hi-Point JHP hanging in the display. When I asked him about the law he laughed out loud and said they don't enforce the law, it was originally enacted to curb the sales of Saturday Night Specials in 1972. On another forum a member posted the IL Code, and according to that it is illegal to sell them in retail, but not to own or sell privately. So it's actually not an outright ban.
I have talked to many of our local LEO's about my HP and not one of them even batted an eye.
 
#27 · (Edited)
Steel melts down just like lead once you get it hot enough ;)

It is what it is, a compromise metal.

Look at alloy 'air weight' frame guns.. There I a trade off there too.. But causes less stink because a more popular name is engraved on the gun ;)

Keep in mind too, that only the Li stress areas of the gun are polymer and zamak3, the high stress portions are steel.

Glocks and keltec are similar compilation of composite and metals.

Carbon fiber AR lower anyone?

Polymer AR lower? 3D print ARLower?

Most people bash high point based on the name....
 
#35 ·
I don't bash them because of the name. I bash them because they are made from inferior materials, and are not locked breech, they are strictly blow-back operated. The 9MM, .40S&W, and the .45ACP should be contained in a gun that locks up IMHO. I know there are a lot of guns on the market that don't lock up, but I don't want any of them either. My only exception to that would be a .380 or something similar.
 
#29 · (Edited)
The Henry Lever action 22's receiver is also Zinc. I think the state laws are outdated since the advent of polymer handguns. They are not outlawed and can't be stronger. I wouldn't want a handgun with a zinc barrel or slide but the frame shouldn't be an issue.
 
#30 ·
Zamak is considered to be at the very top of the pot metal scale of quality. It is still nonetheless a pot metal and doesn't come close in quality to the aluminium alloy used in the name brand air weight pistols eluded to. Many metals are used in various percentages in Zamak. The one constant to qualify as zamak is 5 percent aluminium.
Zamak doesn't drill or machine well which likely explains the blocky finished product. It is what it is.
 
#32 ·
You won't be able to melt a Smith Airweight frame in an iron pot over a fish cooker unless you can get it up well over 1200F

I am not putting down High Points but they are built with less expensive materials
They are good guns for the price you pay
 
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