[MisterEd]

1911's are a shooting 'enthusiasts' gun.

A lot of people do not want to deal with the 'idiosyncrasies' of the 1911. They may not have the mechanical aptitude to deal with an all steel gun, nor the patience it takes to learn to shoot one effectively.

Yes, the 1911 is a 'dated design' - but still very practical, easy to disassemble and reassemble; and easy to work on to improve performance.

Probably the BIGGEST debate with the 1911 is the series 70/80 conundrum but that is best left with the owner of the gun.

There is NO DOUBT a series 70 action and trigger is superior to a series 80 - but with a little work a series 80 pistol can have a trigger NEARLY as good as a 70.

For example I have my series 80 1911 trigger to hardly any take-up, NO 'creep' and about 4 Lbs.

 

[MisterEd]

Youtube, just like MSN, CNN, and the rest of the media morons, write articles strictly for drama.

The difference is, like 'em or not, is MSM news reporters are typically well educated, intelligent and relatively attractive.

You Tubers can be anybody - you or I - and some of them are just neckbearded babbling idiots.

A lot of them make YT videos just to see themselves on TV/computer etc.

Heck, some of them can hardly maintain any sort of intelligent dialogue.

 

[MisterEd]

I agree with that. I watch a lot of YouTube

Which is why I do NOT watch much YT.

A few years ago when I cut the cord and went with a ROKU device it was easier to access YouTube and I started to watch several different you tubers but I lost interest fairly quickly - even with some of the 'well known' ones.

Far too much redundancy, repetitiveness and a lot of inexperience with some. And sorry to say as some of you may be 'fans' of his but Colion Noir falls into this category as well - he just goes about it a little more 'intelligently'.

About the only time I use YT now is when I am looking for something specific - but even then still have 'weed out' the crap!

 

[MisterEd]

I have a ROKU TV but I never watch it.

Well, the advantage to ROKU is the ability to load channels and Apps for quick access.

I have the You Tube app loaded as one of mine and its easy to navigate.

 

[MisterEd]

He's a lawyer/2A advocate/guntuber from I think Houston area.

Well, I don't believe he needs to 'lawyer' too much anymore.

Collins Idehen Jr. (his real name) fired his first gun in 2011. He originally admitted he he wondered why this, (quote) “inanimate object caused him so much pause and fear.”

Well that didn't last long and shortly thereafter he created the alias 'Colion Noir' and began posting videos about how to navigate life as a city-dwelling gun enthusiast.

After earning his degree in 2012 He moved to Dallas and somehow managed to 'hornswaggle' himslef into a job as a paid commentator for NRATV.

He is no doubt a controversial figure in the 'gun world' - hated by some (including his own 'people') and respected and revered by others.

I am not passing judgment but I suspect there are some 'colorful' reasons for his fame...

 

[MisterEd]

No gun is truly 'obsolete'.

A certain model or design may no longer be practical for the original use it was designed for but it may continue to be used for other purposes.

There were also many designs that were impractical or unsafe and they no longer exist but may have given the idea for more practical ideas and designs that do currently exist.

 

[MisterEd]

By last count at least 6 different manufacturers still make 1911 pistols

You might want to recheck that number.

I can think of at least twice that many off the 'top of my head' and a report I read stated there have been at least 100 mfgs of 1911s throughout history, though obviously not all still in biz.

 

[MisterEd]

Or those who carry a sidearm requiring several well placed shots or more to end a problem.

Unfortunately probably 95+% of those who carry a sidearm will never KNOW how many shots they need to 'end a problem' as they will NEVER use their gun in a self defense situation but regardless the average number of shots that are used in self defense is typically 3 or less.

I have read this over the years in reports of self defense scenarios.

 

[MisterEd]

but a great blessing that most of us never need to find out.

DItto this - and I speak from experience with a home break in several years ago however luckily it ended well with the perp arrested and no shots fired.

 

[MisterEd]

This then becomes rather muddled. Was the defender in reasonable fear of life and limb?

In Oregon (where I live) 'reasonable fear' is in effect a de facto consideration IF an intruder is illegally inside one's domicile for whatever reason.

Forced entry, burglary, heck, even if a drunk/drugged person enters a domicile mistakenly ( armed or unarmed) he/she can be 'taken out' with very little chance of any charges against the domicile owner.

It is not called 'castle doctrine' but for all intents and purposes this is what it is.

NOW - with regard to the 'outside' the laws are dramatically different and this makes for a few problems here in Oregon but this is similar with most states that have 'castle doctrine'.

 

[MisterEd]

Just out of curiosity, in what part of Oregon do you live?

Wickiup Junction (LaPine)

 

[MisterEd]

Well that explains it. You live on the other side of the hill, where people work for a living.

Well, that might have been but a lot of places 'on the other side of the hill' are now becoming 'Gentrified' retirement communities - and LaPine is probably one of the most popular.

It's turning into a small version of Bend...

 

[MisterEd]

I have a 450.00 rock island that I have done everything I know to do to make it misfire or jam and have never seen it do either.

I don't own one (but eventually might) however I can't help but to believe they are one of, if not the best 'budget' 1911s.

The one and only I looked at, held, cycled was incredible. It was easily close to something twice or more in price.

Obviously RIA has to 'cut corners' somewhere to keep the prices where they are and well, the finish takes a bit of a 'back seat' but for a gun that is going to be carried and shot thats hardly an issue.

 

[MisterEd]

The only ones that don’t know is because they haven’t shot one.

Ditto this!

Most I have ever let shoot a 1911 (that never had before) liked it - or REALLY liked it and began to consider one!

 

[MisterEd]

Old Thread Revived.

I have an AK with a 90 round drum for when I want to play, I bought it for entertainment.

Well, just a little over a year so not terribly old but it's about 1911's - not AKs....

Are you posting in the wrong thread perhaps?

 

[MisterEd]

What cracks me up is when I read/hear the '1911 is an old design and is too complicated'

Trust me - there are some modern guns that are WAY more complicated than the 1911.

 

[MisterEd]

but I'd much rather deal with what's inside that slide on a 1911 than on a Glock.

Ditto this.

Heck just the sear cage in a CZ 75 BD is more complicated than whats inside a 1911. I know, I own one...

 

[MisterEd]

The 1911 'endures' for a lot of reasons.

History is probably a big part of it however it's design was essentially 'ahead of it's time' and it remains as the 'cornerstone' by which NEARLY all other semi auto pistols followed for their designs.

Are there 'better' guns than a 1911? Not necessarily. There are guns that of newer designs & materials and in some cases might be more 'practical' than the 1911 in certain circumstances but the 1911 remains as a recognizable example of all semi auto pistols.

There are NOT too many products that have maintained their basic design for as long as the 1911 - and have become the most 'copied' of that design.

 

[MisterEd]

Kel-Tec

Several years ago I had a Kel - Tec S2K (1st gen) and it was literally the most difficult gun I had ever disassembled - and even harder to reassemble.

Strange, odd fitting parts and because most were plastic there was the possibility of breakage if one is not careful which was difficult as well.

It took me essentially two days to clean and reassemble - because I had to put it down for a couple days due to a level of frustration I had NEVER before experienced with ANY gun. It made a 1911 look like child's play.

I sold it shortly thereafter!