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.270 Winchester or 6.5 Creedmoor

  • .270 Win

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  • Neither

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  • Don't care

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.270 Winchester vs. 6.5 Creedmoor

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Which would you rather use for deer, and why?
I'm posting this on behalf of my grandfather. He's in Kansas.

Many thanks!!
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Yeah....well, you oughta apologize, even though I've never misspoke I do understand how it might happen.......:sick:, (if you believe that, let me talk to you about a bridge I have for sale)
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There is NO WAY anyone can have the ballistics of......how many cartridges is there?.....at their instant recall.
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I've owned both. 6.5 has less recoil. 270 has been around forever. Both have proven themselves.
Given the choice of owning only one, 6.5 hands down, especially if you load for it.
Thanks to whichever mod or admin combined these two post. Feel free to delete this one after you've seen it.
Twas I who merged them. I merge ANY posts that are made within a couple of minutes.

Twas also I who voted "Don't care", mainly because I do not own either caliber and have never shot either caliber so I really don't care one way or the other.
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I'll give -$50.00 for that bridge in a heartbeat!! 馃馃槒




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SOLD!!!!! It's the only offer I've ever received!!!!
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SOLD!!!!! It's the only offer I've ever received!!!!
It's a deal!!! I said negative 50 you know. You gotta pay me 50 bucks now! Yippee 馃榿馃榿馃榿馃榿
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No fair!! I didn't take that as a minus/negative sign. It's obviously a dash....like you were thinking of what to offer.....:whistle:
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I'll let you off this time, but still deciding about next time ;)
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After about 300 yards the 6.5 has more energy, though...
The reality is that 98% of people out hunting have absolutely no business trying to take a 300 yard shot regardless of the cartridge they're using. The 270 does just dandy at the distances those 98%ers should be hunting at.
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It's obviously a dash
This is a hyphen/minus/negative sign: -
This is a dash: --
Morse code might argue that point.

Still no 6.5 votes. I'm rather surprised by that. I don't care for all the hype and myths that have been put forth by uninformed fans of the cartridge but, that doesn't take away from the fact it is an excellent cartridge.
Still no 6.5 votes.
DCAN either didn't vote or says one thing and does another. (post 22)

Morse code might argue that point.
Awww... c'mon, you're just sulking! :)
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DCAN either didn't vote or says one thing and does another. (post 22)
So that's one for and nine against. Two for if you count yourself. I'm guessing you're Gen Z? Younger people tend to gravitate more towards lighter low recoil calibers.
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Younger people tend to gravitate more towards lighter low recoil calibers.
It's is not without good reason that it is referred to as the 6.5 Manbun...
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Yes, it is and that's a bit of a shame because it really is a good cartridge. My entire issue isn't with the cartridge but with the ignorance of so many of it's users. I have always and still maintain that had the same amount of R&D and marketing been put into almost ANY light recoiling cartridge the results would have been the same. I admit it has some little perks....if they are the kind that is important to one. The cartridge is a marginally more efficient but not enough to honestly matter in the larger scheme of things. Recoil is light but Jimney Cricket, so is most 6.5's....and a host of other cartridges. It comes in a short action which, to me, is utterly meaningless. I never did buy into a short action being more mechanically accurate. Short actions are mostly chambered in cartridges less powerful than rifles in long actions, which typically house 30-06 class cartridges. Less powerful, less recoil equals greater accuracy for nearly all shooters, me included. Why does anyone suppose that when the 308 was introduced the 30-06 lost favor on the target ranges? The tide has ever been toward lighter recoiling cartridges and, that's fine, we shoot them more accurately

The thing that amazes me most is so many act as if Hornady and the US shooter/hunter suddenly, single handedly, discovered 6.5mm caliber. Now that's a laugh a minute. There is some evidence a cartridge nearly identical to the CM was introduced in Australia in either the late 50's or 60's. The 6.5 Swede was developed in 1891 and adopted in 1894, the 6.5 Mannlicher/Schoenauer was derived from the earlier 6.5 X 53R M/S cartridge of 1891, the X54 was introduced at the 1900 Worlds Fair along with the exquisite Mannlicher/Schoenauer carbines. The 6.5 X 52 Carcano dates from 1889 to 1891 when it was introduced. The 6.5 X 57 Mauser dates to 1893-94, the 6.5 X 68 Schuler from 1938 and, like the 264 Win. Mag, leaves most all 6.5's in a trail of ballistic dust. For that matter, given a rifle capable of the SAAMI, 62 KPSI of the CM, most of the 6.5's mentioned will out run or, run with the CM AND, if one dumps the R&D and marketing money into any of them, they'll be just as accurate at equal distances. THAT'S my beef and again, not with the cartridge, with the uninformed users.

As previously mentioned, I have two 6.5's, a 1903 Mannlicher/Schoenauer and the Husqvarna 6.5 X 55. I was working with a Model 70 Featherweight, push feed and one of those re-worked Kimber Mod. 96 Swedes back in the late 80's or early 90's. That class cartridge impressed me then and, it still does. But, good grief, there's nothing magical or intrinsically remarkable about the 6.5 CM that couldn't be done with any other cartridge. Those who proclaim it to have such properties need to have a significantly better grasp of history and ballistics....and you can throw in accuracy.

Now, I'm gonna drag out my 1870's double rifle in 11.15 X 60R and my 16 X 10.5 X 47R combination gun and go "burn some charcoal an' sling some lead."
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Now, I'm gonna drag out my 1870's double rifle in 11.15 X 60R and my 16 X 10.5 X 47R combination gun and go "burn some charcoal an' sling some lead."
You must be old. You seem to be 'recoil insensitive'! No manbun there, folks!
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The 270 is hands down the better hunting cartridge.

If you want to target shoot all day the creedmore is the best.

This is based on recoil and barrel life with all other factors considered equal or null.

Like most above have already said - either will work on deer out to 300 yards. If you can can hit one correctly at a further range the 270 is good for another 150+/- yards.

If you want to shoot elk to limited ranges the 270 is okay but leave the creedmore in the truck - but personally I might opt for a 7mm Rem Mag or stronger round in that situation.
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Personally, you didn't come close to having a statistically valid sample size to determine an valid outcome. If there were only a possible 100 people that "could" have responded (and there are definitely more than 100 users of this account) you would have needed a response size of at least 85 to be correct within a +/- 5% margin. Lot of reasons why people chose one or the other and some of it was decent reading but I would never make a decision based on the comments or voting results. I also think reporting "age" of respondent would have been interesting. As with other comments, this is just my opinion.
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Which would you rather use for deer, and why?
I'm posting this on behalf of my grandfather. He's in Kansas.

Many thanks!!
Speaking as a 76 year old grandfather, 270 hands down. They are everywhere and therefore cheap to buy, ammo is no issue, and ballistics are as good or better than the Creed. I have observed the "Creed Craze" for last few years and just chuckle. You could argue that the Creed might perform better out past 500 yards or so but have you actually shot on your local 500 yard range? Good luck finding one. The fact is that the 6.5 Swede has been knocking them down since the 1890's along with other 6.5 cartridges. Perfect example of good marketing to an audience that is too lazy to actually research ballistics and make informed decisions. Last point, Mauser had it really figured out. Take a good look at 6.5 Swede and 7 x 57 Mauser. If these two cartridges cannot take care of anything you find in North America (with the possible exception of a mama grizzly bear), I am not sure what does.
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Last point, Mauser had it really figured out. Take a good look at 6.5 Swede and 7 x 57 Mauser. If these two cartridges cannot take care of anything you find in North America
So true. Everyone wants a clean, quick kill so they tend to hunt with a much more powerful cartridge than necessary. My buddy's wife is a tiny little thing, definitely under 100 lbs and struggles with recoil so she hunts with rifle chambered in 7X57 Mauser and I've seen her take an Elk at an honest to goodness 300 yds with one shot. Bullet design and placement will always get the job done over raw muzzle energy. The vast majority of game I've taken was with a rifle chambered in .270 Win. or .284 Win.
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You already have the 270 and it is a fine cartridge. If you are happy with it, keep it.
Yes, you will hear that this is better or that is better, but, is it better for you.
As you all know I live in Canada and I do hunt deer and moose. I have also hunted in different countries and even though I have several gun vaults, I have only three main hunting rifles. And none of them are really on this list or mentioned.
For deer, I use a 243
For moose, I use a 270WSM
And if I am going after something that might hurt me, it is a 405 Winchester.

The point I am trying to make is leave the hype and the paper ballistics behind and use what you are comfortable with.
If you are not comfortable with the rifle, you are not going to do well in the field.

My dad had a 30-06 rifle, and he missed a lot of deer and moose in his lifetime.
I built him two rifles. One was a 243 and the other was a 6.5X55. After that , his biggest complaint was that he would go out in the morning and by noon he had filled his tags. And now he didn't know what to do with the other 13 days left of hunting season.

I know people in the far north that shoot everything with a 22HP. Would I suggest using it, no. But they know how to hunt and are comfortable with the cartridge and know what it can do and what it can't.
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