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frostyduck
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(2/2/03 6:43:04 pm)
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Greetings powder pushers. Am curious if anyone has shared this experience. Have a nice batch (I thought) of military 308 brass that a friend passed on to me (he was without a 30 . Already tumbled, ready to make babies. He had also on a small base RCBS die. Just about needed a 3 ft. cheater on the press handle, and stuck about the third case in the die.
Blamed the small base, waited and finally purchased a regular die,...that brass must have gotten ahold of a good dose of Viagra or something, it is too danged hard to run through the die. Have moved on to factory brass and have no problem. Anyone have any ideas about the reason for this???
armedandsafe
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(2/2/03 10:06:37 pm)
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I have run across this in brass from machinegun firing, but not in 308. The old Browning 30-06 machineguns would get hot enough and spit brass fast enough that the spent brass would be very over-sized down near the base (rim.) I learned to use alot of lube and work the brass into the resizer in stages. Lift it until it squeaks, drop it, lift it until it squeaks, etc. I use silicone lube for that, as it is less likely to leave oil dents in the shoulder. Then MAKE SURE you anneal the neck.
Armed and Safe - not just a theory
frostyduck
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(2/3/03 11:52:28 am)
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Thanks A and S,
Interesting reply to my inquiry. I have enough other brass that I'll take the easy route unless I run low and need this 'tuff' stuff. I can understand the abnormal heat causing a change in the makeup and who knows where this came from, other than my friend did some competitive shooting and I assumed this component had a fairly 'clean' history. It sure stumped me at first....was sure it was the S.B. die!! Thanks for your interest. Load on Friends-------
inplanotx
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(2/7/03 10:52:31 am)
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I have run across this problem before with military brass. As armedandsafe stated, I would bet the barn that this was fired in a machinegun. A quick and dirty way to reloading this stuff is in two stages. First would be to resize in a normal .308 full length die. The second would be to then use the SB dies on the full length sized cases. You would only need the SB dies if using the brass in a semi-auto rifle. However, after this I would watch the brass for case seperation very closely. That shiny ring around the base is a dead giveaway. Happy shooting!
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Posts: 8
(2/2/03 6:43:04 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del All .308 military brass
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Greetings powder pushers. Am curious if anyone has shared this experience. Have a nice batch (I thought) of military 308 brass that a friend passed on to me (he was without a 30 . Already tumbled, ready to make babies. He had also on a small base RCBS die. Just about needed a 3 ft. cheater on the press handle, and stuck about the third case in the die.
Blamed the small base, waited and finally purchased a regular die,...that brass must have gotten ahold of a good dose of Viagra or something, it is too danged hard to run through the die. Have moved on to factory brass and have no problem. Anyone have any ideas about the reason for this???
armedandsafe
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Posts: 73
(2/2/03 10:06:37 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: .308 military brass
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I have run across this in brass from machinegun firing, but not in 308. The old Browning 30-06 machineguns would get hot enough and spit brass fast enough that the spent brass would be very over-sized down near the base (rim.) I learned to use alot of lube and work the brass into the resizer in stages. Lift it until it squeaks, drop it, lift it until it squeaks, etc. I use silicone lube for that, as it is less likely to leave oil dents in the shoulder. Then MAKE SURE you anneal the neck.
Armed and Safe - not just a theory
frostyduck
Member
Posts: 9
(2/3/03 11:52:28 am)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: .308 military brass
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Thanks A and S,
Interesting reply to my inquiry. I have enough other brass that I'll take the easy route unless I run low and need this 'tuff' stuff. I can understand the abnormal heat causing a change in the makeup and who knows where this came from, other than my friend did some competitive shooting and I assumed this component had a fairly 'clean' history. It sure stumped me at first....was sure it was the S.B. die!! Thanks for your interest. Load on Friends-------
inplanotx
V.I.P. Member
Posts: 124
(2/7/03 10:52:31 am)
Reply | Edit | Del 308 brass and SB dies
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I have run across this problem before with military brass. As armedandsafe stated, I would bet the barn that this was fired in a machinegun. A quick and dirty way to reloading this stuff is in two stages. First would be to resize in a normal .308 full length die. The second would be to then use the SB dies on the full length sized cases. You would only need the SB dies if using the brass in a semi-auto rifle. However, after this I would watch the brass for case seperation very closely. That shiny ring around the base is a dead giveaway. Happy shooting!