38-55 Winchester 94 Re-barrel

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  1. Catman1942

    Catman1942 Well-Known Member

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    i think a long range single shot in 38/55 would be a really fun gun. lighter bullets can reach out if every thing else is made to fit the bullet. it would be a easy one to reload in many different ways. i would probably do paperpatched.
     
  2. howlnmad

    howlnmad Old Guy Doing Things Moderator Supporting Member

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    Has something happened to him? He hasn't been around since July of last year.
     

  3. joe45c

    joe45c Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Traps that's the site i used to get his date for him. Pretty much the only one i use.
     
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  4. sharps4590

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    When BP silhouette started back in the 80's there was several guys started out using the 38-55...for obvious reasons, accuracy, light recoil and what at first was believed to be ample bullet weight. It didn't take them long to learn that at 500 meters the lighter bullet of the 38-55 lacked the "oomph" to topple the heavy ram with anything but a hit near the top of the ram, near where the spine would be. It wasn't long before the cartridge was pretty much abandoned for that game. It also had a greater deflection than the heavier 40's and 45's which were used with 410+ grs. for the 40's and 500+ grs. for the 45's. 540 grs. is not uncommon in the 45's with a 1-18 twist. I believe the heaviest in the 38-55 was about 300 grs.

    However, that's just one long range game. That the cartridge is more than accurate enough is indisputable as is the light recoil as compared to the heavier cartridges. It has the added advantage of using less powder and lead and, if a fella can dope wind, (I am LOUSY at doping wind), it's more than adequate for a paper puncher, gong ringing or long range fun.

    If I didn't already have a 9.3 single shot, (0.366 caliber), that is slightly longer than the 38-55 I'd be in the market for one a little more seriously. It is a grand, old cartridge.
     
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  5. pdkfishing

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    Trap, is your information on the date of mfg. thread? If not, I'm sure it would be a welcome addition. My pre-64 was built in 1941 or 1943 through 1948, depending on whether you use savage99.com or winchestercollectors.org.
     
  6. TRAP55

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    Bert is alive and well, ...now. Suffered a severe case of pneumonia last year that about did him in. Since, he's retreated from most forums, and hangs out on the WACA site.
    PDK, that's Berts info there on the Winchester collectors site, I pm'ed you the confirmation on the date.
    45nut tossed me an interesting one that has some rarity, I'll let him tel you about it.
     
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    Roger, Trap. Thanks again for all your help.
     
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    Started a thread back in March of 2011 on the Calguns forums dating Winchesters, it's 31 pages now! Two biggest surprises, was how many old Winchester are here in Calif, and how many were rare and special order. There were dozens that got added to Bert's 1894 and 1885 survey, and to Michael's 1892 survey. An 1866, A stainless barrel Mod 54, and a Hotchkiss showed up too.
     
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    45nut Well-Known Member

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    Well, Mr. Trapp gave me some very nice intel on my 94 32 WS. He told me it was made in 1945, when Winchester was just getting back to regular production rifles. Mine was made in January 1945, one of just 8,870 made that year.
     
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    Lots of good information here. :)Had some bad information on my pre-64. Turns out it was built in January or February of 1941. Thanks to joe45c and trap55.
     
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    joe45c Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    It got manufactured just a few months before all heck broke loose on Dec.7th.
     
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    And they were cranking production to clean out parts to gear up for military production. In '41 production hit 59,000+, 42 dropped to 29,000+, 0 in '43, end of 44 only 13, then '45 saw the 8,800 as they cranked back up.
     
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    wow i didn't think they made any in 42 and 44.
     
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    Joe, I would have to check with Bert, but the last ones may have been like a parts cleanup, and there may have been a contract for prison guard guns? The 13 made in 1944? I'll bet you a cold one, they are all in some ones collection! 45nut's rifle is one of maybe 3 Winchester models, that I've dated that were made in a really low production year.
    Even in the non-war years, Winchester would do weird things like produce 1-10 guns, several years after production had ended. There's always a premium on those guns.
     
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    Oh yea! it'd be nice to know who.
     
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