.43 Egyptian

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  1. mudman35962

    mudman35962 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    i saw something about Remington making a rolling block shortly after the civil war that was sold to Egypt in .43 cal. looked in cartridges of the world and did not find that. was i wrong on the cal.? did i not look in the correct place? "inquiring mind want to know"
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  2. runes

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    probably .43 Spanish as were most rolling blocks found.

    I looked up the Egyptian rolling blocks and they actually used a proprietary cartridge (unique ) to them.
     
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    Yes, there is/was a 43 Egyptian. It was similar to the 43 Spanish and the 11.15 X 60R, (43 Mauser), and our 44-77 Sharps. I thought it was in COTW. Did you look in military cartridges?

    If I remember the story correctly, Remington got hosed on the Egyptian deal.
     
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    mudman35962 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    i don't know if this is the best forum there is, i think it is ahead of who ever is in second place.
    thanks all just what i was wanting!

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    My old copy (8th edition) of COTW lists an 11.43X50Rmm (.43) Egyptian Remington in Military Cartridges. The writeup says the Egyptians ordered 60,000 but defaulted, so the French bought them and used them in the Franco-Prussian war.
     
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    I have a friend who has a .43 Spanish. Pretty neat old rifle.
     
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    Now waiting for a tutorial on how to form cases. :popcorn::D
     
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    sharps4590 Well-Known Member

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    I can do that...:D....(with help from Donnely's!!!)

    Start with 475 #2 Nitro Express brass....Bell used to make it but I don't believe they exist anymore but I bet someone has it. Bertram probably...at a price. Cut case to 2 inches, thin rim to 0.065, full length size in 43 Egyptian dies, trim to 1.94, chamfer case mouth....load and fire.....

    Edit: Buffalo Arms has the brass already made, except that they're out of stock. They do have Bertram 475 NE, #2....at $140.00 per 20 and CH-4D has the dies.
     
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    accident Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Wow! Isn't that $7.00 a case? That's too rich for my blood. But then again if I had a rifle in that caliber I guess I would have to pay what they want. I just likely wouldn't have very many.
     
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    Yeah, and then you have to cut them up and reform them.

    The brass that's out of stock isn't as bad as Bertram, it's only $3.00 a case. The upside is that as low pressure a cartridge as that is brass life should be very long.
     
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    Friend had one, they're a hoot to shoot. I think he had 460grn? paper patched bullets loaded up. In the right sunlight, you could see the bullet going downrange. We were shooting a 55gal drum, and every time it was hit, it moved backwards.
    Sharps, Egypt couldn't pay up, so France bought the contract from Remington. Used up to WWI.
     
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    i used to load a lot of old cartiges in the rollers, but as i got older and semi forgetfull, i went to the 45-70 as it kept things simple and alot cheaper as cases and bullets are every where.
     

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    I was excited when I saw this post! I actually fired one of those a long time ago. Considerable recoil from a black powder cartridge. Most folks never heard of '.43 Egyptian' and think you're talking about the .43 Spanish.
     
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    now that is just plain showing off! you lucky rascal! looking good. thank you for sharing.

    rick
     
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