I am pretty sure (like 95%) I saw either one of these at the lgs around here. I can check first thing on Monday and get back to you. I will even ask if they will ship, if not we can work something out.I cannot find hornady or lee 9mm dies anywhere. Anyone know of a place. I see ebay has them in bidding wars for almost a 100 bucks!! But I will not pull the trigger on those!!