9mm, .40 or .45

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by seanpcif, Apr 12, 2004.

  1. islenos

    islenos Active Member

    Mar 16, 2004
    West Texas
    "Oh come on now! Everyone needs a backup for their backup! What would plan C do if A and B failed?"

    That is what a fixed bayonet is for:D
  2. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    Dec 14, 2003
    I agree with what remmy said in an earlier post.... Skip the 40 !!!

    I have never trusted 40's in Glocks or in any other brand pistol either....
    They have a rep for not cycling relaibly, and I guess alot of the GKB problems are in 40 as well.....

    9mm is utterly reliable in Glocks and alot of other brand pistols as well.
    The 45 is best for defense....and I do like Glocks G21 45, but next time I'm leaning towards a Sig P220 45....Out of the box relaibility, accuracy, and very easy to shoot bullseyes...out of the box!!! I previously owned 2 P220's....had to sell because I was very ill and needed the money.....

    As far as the shorter stubbier 1911's....Personally I'd avoid them. I had a Colt series 80 officers model that just wrecked me on 1911 for years. It was 15 years before i even considered a 1911 again......
    I love Glocks, but Nobody should start with their first Glock as a mini anything. The Glock trigger is alien to some folks, and takes a while to learn. It Is worthwhile once learned.....
    If you go Glock....get a midsized "19" or a full sized "17" to start with...
    Too many first time Glock owners get the mini Glock 45, which is a handfull, and then get burnt out on Glock......

    Thats my opinion anyway


  3. seanpcif

    seanpcif New Member

    Feb 29, 2004
    many thanks for all your input

    basically, I just need something better than a 38 for competition,(as the cof is set up for a 38 or better)

    Like I said,last wknd I tried a glock 36 and absolutely loved it, but this wknd I am going to try a glock 19 and see if I enjoy it as much.

    I am leaning towards a 9mm only because it is cheaper to shoot.
    But I am considering a 1911 and than buy a conversion for the 22.

    What do you think of this?

  4. Country101

    Country101 Well-Known Member

    Feb 28, 2004
    NW AR
    You may need to learn to shoot... Takes 2 at center mass and 1 to the head. :D Textbook kill. Ya do that, I dont think there's much chance of ANYBODY comin at ya for more than a stager or a fall.

    Sean, I'd go with the .45 full size version. I'm not partial to 9mm, but they are cheap to shoot and have decent stopping power. Dont know if they are stronger than a .38. I dont like the compacts either. I was shown a Kimber Custom Carry. It was smaller lengthwise, but it was thicker because of a double stacked magazine. Personally I'd like the slimmer of the two. Get whatever makes ya happy. Either a 9 or .45 oughta be good, so it's basically your preferance. I dont know anything about conversion kits, so I cant help ya there.
  5. kravi

    kravi New Member

    Mar 11, 2004
    I think that's not a bad idea. The 1911 with the conversion kit. It will let you shoot lots and lots of cheap ammo, but still keep you comfortable with the "build and feel" of your 1911. Also helps you work on your form without recoil. Usefulll.

    I also like the glock, and the 9mm (especially if you are used to a 45ACP) is also a nice light cartrige.

    If you want something very powerful and very accurate, you might want to go for 10mm. The glock has a 10mm variant, I think. It is expensive, though. Not many people seem to like the 10mm like I do :-(

  6. inplanotx

    inplanotx Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Kravi wrote:
    I have had both the Colt Ace .22 and a Colt conversion unit for my Randall. Both with floating chambers. The recoil is almost the same as a .45 you still have the mass of the slide and barrel recoiling together. Just cheaper to shoot.
  7. Remington597

    Remington597 Former Guest

    Feb 24, 2004
    I appreciate the tip, but after thousands of hours at ranges and competitions, my marksmanship is not at question.
    Heading off multiple attackers at 25 yards is a challenge for even the best marksman, therefore it is prudent to have multiple firearms and side clips as well for the most effective defense.
  8. rnshooter

    rnshooter New Member

    May 25, 2003
    New Orleans
    i would have to agree with knuckle dragger...i like the .40. i have two .40's and both have been wonderful shooters with 100% reliability. both guns are beretta's. i have not shot any other .40's, but both of mine work flawlessly. i also agree with country...one nice shot to the head or two to the chest should stop most anybody, regardless of caliber.

    just my .02

    be safe
  9. Greg

    Greg New Member

    Feb 10, 2004
    New Mexico
    Ah yes, C101, the good 'ole Mozambique (Israeli Failure Drill). Not too many people wearing 50 layers of Kevlar over their face. This is a great way to practice (1,2,3...1,2,3). At least double tap 'em as a regular way to practice. However, if you shoot more than 2 or 3 times, the use of force will be brought into question, but you will still be alive.

    Rem, if you've got that many coming at ya, maybe go with a slinged, pistol gripped Streetsweeper, with a drum loaded with 000 Buck!

    Sean, it's up to you bud. Any of the things mentioned will be fine for you as long as you are comfortable and accurate (and practice!) with what you pick. I have used the .22 conversion on 1911's and they are nice. There are .22 conversion kits for the Glocks that are nice as well. Either will run you about $200.00, plus more for extra mags.

    Remember, the Glock .40 was made as standard issue to the FBI, so it must be pretty good. However, recently, the FBI went with the 1911-A1 .45 ACP Springfield FBI model (sweet gun, but should be at 2 grand a pop!) for their special groups. I wonder why that is? My guess is, if they could afford it, and train everyone well enough, it would be issued for all of the FBI.
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2004
  10. HadEmAll

    HadEmAll New Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    If the .40 had a "rep" for not cycling reliably, I doubt hundreds (maybe thousands) of police departments would be using them as their standard issure duty weapons, along with the FBI and many other law enforcement agencies. A majority of them are using Glocks, with SIG and Beretta plentiful also. I've got 4 .40s, (Browning, Glock, Kahr, and Walther) and they've all been stone cold reliable, or I wouldn't own them. Never 1, that's no, failures to chamber or extract a round in the years I've been using the .40. My 9mms have had the same reliability, along with 1 of my 2 .45s. (The 1911 gets a little finicky every now and then, just when I think maybe it's had it's last hiccup).
    Anyway, now that I've got that off my chest,
    9,.40, or .45, they'll all do the job with decent bullet placement, and none of them will do it with poor placement. The 9mm is a pleasure to shoot, and for sure is the most economical way to go if you're paying for your own ammunition. Personally, I couldn't stand not to have at least one of each.