[Mr Winston]

A bit of trivia for rolling block fans. There is one, that I know of, Remington made rolling block that only allows you to load a cartridge in the chamber while the hammer is in half cock position. In full cock position, the block moves up enough to prevent loading. That's the Improved Model 6 22 rimfire.

 

[Rae Harrison]

@Mr Winston there about 6 or 7 die hard Rolling Block fans here... Welcome to the TFF Family.

 

[Mr Winston]

Thanks Rae. I thought I knew just about everything there was to know about old Remingtons. Until last week when I saw one of the "improved" model 6s. All these years and still learning.

 

[Rae Harrison]

@tuckerd1 Where are you? And @marlinguy

 

[tuckerd1]

I have an Improved #6 and it is as Winston says.

 

[Rae Harrison]

I have an Improved #6 and it is as Winston says.

And to think you have been holding out on us... I still love the#4 the best.

 

[Mr Winston]

I am definitely warming up to 22LR rifles for plinking and target shooting. Even reloading 38 cal centerfire is getting expensive. I'll bet single shots slow down ammo use quite a bit too. I was thinking about a Winchester gallery gun or one of the older Rossi copies, but now I think I'll hold out for a #4 or #6 rolling block.

 

[Old School or Nothing]

22s aren't 9$ a brick any more either. I miss when 38s cost a nickel to reload. I can still load cast 38s with old stock primers for less than 22s cost now a days but not by much. Those old supplies wont last forever though.

 

[Sudden Thunder]

A bit of trivia for rolling block fans. There is one, that I know of, Remington made rolling block that only allows you to load a cartridge in the chamber while the hammer is in half cock position. In full cock position, the block moves up enough to prevent loading. That's the Improved Model 6 22 rimfire.

So is it actually a rolling block or is it a falling block?

 

[tuckerd1]

So is it actually a rolling block or is it a falling block?

It is neither a rolling block nor a falling block. It moves backwards and down on a pivot pin in front of the breech block.

 

[Mr Winston]

To my mind, the model 6 is a true rolling block. The lock up is exactly the same. Remington made the receiver longer to give the barrel a 2 inch steel cradle to sit in making the take down joint much stronger. That made room for more space between the pivot points. The block still rolls down, but at a wider radius. They replaced the spur at the top of the block with a side mounted spur. The Improved version has a smaller extractor that comes through a slot in the breech face and the new half cock only loading feature. The one I saw had a 24" barrel and a longer fore end stock. Don't know if there were barrel length options or if they all came with longer barrels. Hard to research this stuff. Right now, An improved model 6 is my grail 22 plinker, but I did find a rossi Winchester 62 clone with problems on the cheap that I'm considering.

 

[tuckerd1]

The Rider Split Breech, Remington #1, #1 1/2, #2, #4, #5, #7 and Whitney rolling blocks are true rolling blocks in function. The only real connection between all these and the #6 is the lockup. The hammer does lock the breech block upon firing similar to the rolling blocks mentioned above.

The #6 is closer to a falling block than a rolling block. It pivots on a pin 1" forward of the breech face and falls down into the receiver. See the comparison of the #6 to a #4 in the below pictures.

 

[ScrapMetal]

Well said Tuckerd1 and nice pics as well.

-Ron

 

[Jerry10]

Looks a bit like a Stevens Crackshot I have in 22lr calibre, I always ckassed that as falling block, but not my field. Very nice looking rifles.... would look better in my collection!

 

[Mr Winston]

I never knew about the Crackshot. There's another item for my wish list. Especially the version with the Sharps style trigger guard lever. Doesn't get much cooler than that. Learning new things all the time.

 

[Old School or Nothing]

I've been kinda wanting a low wall but not a rolling block this far. They are masterful designs though - I like them just not enough to buy one. I do like single shot rifles though - falling block singles and levers are my prefered designs.