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adding a scope - no mounting holes/brackets

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Ithaca-dbl12

Discussion Starter · Dec 29, 2012

I have several old .22s that are not currently fitted with scopes and none of them are drilled for mounts nor do they have any mounting rails. Are there any ring type clamps (shaped like the number 8) that would clamp around the barrel and then clamp around the scope?

The next question is what would be an entry level scope worth buying for plinking?

Funds limited... two kids in college.

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bobkk

· #2 · Jan 3, 2013

I've read about using JB weld or loctite to hold weaver bases on old rifles. I have a old Rem 550 and bases but not tried loctite or JB weld. Have to try it when it warms up a little.

gun runner

· #3 · Jan 3, 2013

im thinking you could get a welder that knows how to braze and let him braze you a scope mount rail on your .22's thats the best i can think of.

FW!

· #4 · Jan 3, 2013

I have a Mossberg 44US with a scope base I bought from Havlin Sales that I mounted on with JB Weld. The first time it ended up crooked so I took it off with a heat gun & re-mounted it. It has been bumped several times & is still solid

gun runner

· #5 · Jan 3, 2013 (Edited)

jb weld might last for a while but in time id say it will break.

old semperfi

· #6 · Jan 3, 2013

once upon a time you could take the rifle to your local gunsmith and they attached the mount to the side of a receiver,it had to be drilled and tapped.i havent seen any mounts like that in many many years.if it is an older gun you need to keep it stock to be worth anything,if its an old cheapy then sell it and buy a modern 22 with the mounts.i have put a lot more money in some of my guns that they were worth,but i did the work myself and it was really more time than money.i am capable of doing many things a gunsmith would do but........i have been working on guns over fifty years.i do not suggest you try drilling and tapping your self. old semperfi

JLA

· #7 · Jan 3, 2013

Have a gunsmith drill and tap the reciever for universal weaver bases. JB weld might hold for a while, but will eventually break off, and you have the challenge of keeping the mount centered and square while it sets. Loc tite only works with screws, it doesnt bond well enough to hold by itsself.

A decent entry level scope for a .22 would be just about any cenetrpoint or tasco scope from walmart. prolly find a nice one for around 40 bucks with rings..

Ithaca-dbl12

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 5, 2013

Thanks for the input. I'll keep these ideas in mind.

spud9

· #9 · Jan 5, 2013

What JLA said +1.. It isn't that hard to drill and tap into the receiver. There are some side mount lptions out there but they are limited. Easiest thing is to take it to a gunsmith, it will probably cost you around $75 to $100 bucks to have it done, but it will be done right and straight. That does not include the cost for a rail which you will need. I will make a suggestion in that to get a ruger 10/22 rail as they come with both widths for mounting rings. All that loctite and glue stuff doesn't last.

olafhardt

· #10 · Jan 5, 2013

I have glued on lots of scopes and sights with Gorrila glue mixed with graphite.. Use a thin layer, the glue expands a lot. This expansion allows you to use a flat base on a curved receiver. I have used flat steel for a base or scope bases. I have had no trouble with the glue holding and it comes off if needed.The polyurethane glues , like Gorrila, I think are more resistant to heat and vibration than epoxies and they expand to fill the spaces if the parts don't exactly match, like the 12 gauge rib I glued on a 20 gauge single barrel. Sometimes Bubba rules.

ejkoechling

· #11 · Jan 5, 2013

Old semperfi=" if it is an older gun you need to keep it stock to be worth anything,if its an old cheapy then sell it and buy a modern 22 with the mounts"
+1

sounds like you'll have more into the gunsmith than what they're worth; unless there's some sentimental value

oldfartrr

· #12 · Mar 3, 2013

Ithaca-dbl12 said:
I have several old .22s that are not currently fitted with scopes and none of them are drilled for mounts nor do they have any mounting rails. Are there any ring type clamps (shaped like the number 8) that would clamp around the barrel and then clamp around the scope?

The next question is what would be an entry level scope worth buying for plinking?

Funds limited... two kids in college.

depends on what you can do yourself,,, a lil "******* enginueity" and a good hacksaw and file (sometimes a hammer tooo) just have to think the problem thru,, have done this type of thing for a couple friends,,(they bought the steak and beer) maynot always look pretty but if it works !!! one of them the guy even took the parts (aluminum) and had them hard black anodized cost him twice the price of the gun,, BUT he was happpy,, and had a couple people at the range wanting to buy it from him,,, depends on what you are willing to try and be happy with,,, ( save,save, and DONT tell momma about your stash hidden in the bottom of your toolbox)

JUNKKING

· #13 · Mar 3, 2013

ejkoechling said:
Old semperfi=" if it is an older gun you need to keep it stock to be worth anything,if its an old cheapy then sell it and buy a modern 22 with the mounts"
+1

sounds like you'll have more into the gunsmith than what they're worth; unless there's some sentimental value

If this is the only gun they have and not able to buy a newer one then the price of a gunsmith to drill and tap it for a scope mount will be far less than a new gun. I definitely wouldnt try JB Weld or gluing a scope mount on for reasons mentioned above.

Zane71464

· #14 · Mar 4, 2013 (Edited)

As said above, if the guns mean anything to you and you plan to keep itthem, take it to a good gunsmith and let them drill and tap for a weaver style base mount.
JB weld or any other method like that isnt the answer for mounting a scope to a rifle.

gvw3

· #15 · Mar 4, 2013

Duct tape.

Zane71464

· #16 · Mar 4, 2013

gvw3 said:
Duct tape.

:lmao:
Be about the same thing IMO...if it isnt done right, it wont and never will be right.

Zane71464

· #17 · Mar 4, 2013

...anything worth doing, is worth doing right. I heard that growing up, and Dad was right.

Snakedriver

· #18 · Mar 4, 2013

Zane71464 said:
As said above, if the guns mean anything to you and you plan to keep itthem, take it to a good gunsmith and let them drill and tap for a weaver style base mount.
JB weld or any other method like that isnt the answer for mounting a scope to a rifle.

I agree with Zane, I took my old Remington 512 .22 rifle, that I've had since I was 10 y.o., and had my local & trusted gunsmith drill & tap the receiver for a set of Weaver Scope Bases built for my rifle. He charged me $60 OTD for the work including mounting the bases and I bought the bases on-line for around $10 delivered. I installed a zeroed my own scope.

It's been an excellent decision as I'm able to achieve those nice nickle sized groups again at 50 yards with my trusty old rifle. The rifle will never leave my family so I wasn't concerned about losing value to the rifle by adding the scope. My Dad bought the gun new for around $12.50 when he was in high school.

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Zane71464

· #19 · Mar 4, 2013

Fine looking Rifle Snakedriver. I've got my Dad's old Nylon 66 that I "basically" rebuilt a couple of years ago. I was wanting and did mount a scope on it, as it already had the dovetail built into the reciever cover, but just can keep in zeroed in?
The way the reciever cover is made, I'm thinking it's just to flexable...open sights now.
Just my eyes arent as good as the used to be and cant see open sights out past 20+ yards.

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