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I see a big problem looming. Our Government can literally shut down the gun industry and any resistance of it's people, by restricting or creating the kind of shortage we now have, with ammunition.
I think it would be worth at least a conversation of NRA members and civilians, to seek a civilian co operative ammunition source.
We need a secure ammunition supply and storage around the country.
How would you feel about it and would you invest ?
 

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How would it work? So you contribute $ and the co-op purchases and stores ammo for distribution in tough times? Who gets 1st dibs on the inventory?

...it sounds like the petroleum reserve which has been a failure and is often used by Obama for political reasons.

Unfortunately, hording huge supplies by individuals is the only solution. I don't see ammo being outlawed but anything is possible with the liberal gun-grabbers in Congress and liberal pols at the state level. America is a mean place now and the anger is being directed towards lawful gun owners.

In NY I need a background check for ammo purchases. How many mass killings is that going to stop?
 

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I am just trying to figure out what citizens can do. Will the people share ammunition if there was a crisis ? I doubt that.
If the day was tommorow and the supply of ammunition available locally was non existant, like it is now, how will we fight ?
I'm surprised no one is as alarmed as I am. We need some answers from the NRA and other organizations.
 

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I am just trying to figure out what citizens can do. Will the people share ammunition if there was a crisis ? I doubt that.
If the day was tommorow and the supply of ammunition available locally was non existant, like it is now, how will we fight ?
I'm surprised no one is as alarmed as I am. We need some answers from the NRA and other organizations.
Sharing depends on what is involved. If my neighbor can contribute to my survival in any way, then sharing ammo would be a posibility. If my neighbor wants some of my ammo so he can defend his family, and not contribute to my survival, then the answer is no! I do not believe for a moment that panic buying is causing the ammo shortage, that just doesn't make sense to me. Millions upon millions of .22 ammo is made each day, and yet there is very little of it ever making it to the stores. I really feel bad for those that are just now waking up to the realization that this country is falling apart, and that socialism/communism is taking over. Quoting GunnyGene, one of our members, "You go to war with the weapons you have, not the weapons you wish you had".
 

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The shortage we see today is from hoarding. The fear is what Congress and Obama MAY do. All it takes to shut down all ammo manufacturers is for the Government to put in place a regulation that eliminates the ability of ammo manufactures to make ammo of any kind (such a regulation would not be hard to come up with). But a co-op would be subject to that same regulation and would also be kept from making ammo.

We are at the mercy of those that fear guns (often it is because they have never gone shooting) and socialistic liberals who believe that to have the power they have to have the guns and the public should have none. This is where America is going.... socialistic Europe in America, and look what it did for Europe. Too bad we have let the entitlement part of American society take over the voting booths in America. They only want their free stuff and care little if America tanks in the process.

As with everything else the response is usually reactive rather than pro-active and we will have to fail before the voting public realizes the path they were on was not good. America may survive but the times will be hard indeed.

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As with everything else the response is usually reactive rather than pro-active and we will have to fail before the voting public realizes the path they were on was not good. America may survive but the times will be hard indeed.

LDBennett
Agreed...I just wonder how much more "failure" we have to endure before realization occurs.

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I see a big problem looming. Our Government can literally shut down the gun industry and any resistance of it's people, by restricting or creating the kind of shortage we now have, with ammunition.
I think it would be worth at least a conversation of NRA members and civilians, to seek a civilian co operative ammunition source.
We need a secure ammunition supply and storage around the country.
How would you feel about it and would you invest ?
ammo control has always been a hold out idea for backdoor gun bans. same with magazine restrictions.

rememberthe talk of micro stamping cartridges when fired? weird operator presence devices so only 1 person can fire a gun.. etc.

it's all 'death by 1000 scratches' type stuff.

control ammo and you defacto control guns. and it doens't have to be 'right now'.

choke off ammo. wait 2ys. brass and copepr will be the new gold and silver...
 

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I would have no interest in being a part of an ammo co-op. The only co-ops that work operate like businesses, and we are not short on competition in the ammo manufacturing market. No need for a co-op making and selling ammunition.
 

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I see a big problem looming. Our Government can literally shut down the gun industry and any resistance of it's people, by restricting or creating the kind of shortage we now have, with ammunition.
I think it would be worth at least a conversation of NRA members and civilians, to seek a civilian co operative ammunition source.
We need a secure ammunition supply and storage around the country.
How would you feel about it and would you invest ?
I'm a handloader, there is no shortage of ammo where I am. No idea how a co-op would work. I won't shoot others reloads and won't let others shoot mine.
 

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I also figure the average citizen should have taken care of any ammo issues way before now anyway. Reloading sure has given me a sense of ammo security I guess you'd call it. Only have to start casting my own bullets and I'll be complete.

Everywhere I ever lived, people (with the exception of relatives) were ready to take rather than give to their fellow man. I think people will trade for their own benefit, just the nature of America today.

About the only people I know who share as a cultural concept are the Indians. I have a village 3 miles from my place and it's funny with them Indians but also respectable. The don't think twice about taking somebody's truck, driving wherever, borrowing everything without asking, they do split up & share all meat they kill, hijacking booze from each other's cabin (not seen as stealing), heck they even get to sharing each other's wives pretty regular as long as they keep in in the family, no joke. As long as any kid's born look like they belong in the village family it's ok with them. Them Indians are really ok just the same once ya get to know them well. I just don't think the sharing thing would ever go over well with us greedy Whites, whether it be ammo or anything else.
 

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I also figure the average citizen should have taken care of any ammo issues way before now anyway. .
the average ones are sheep and many didn't have a bullet to their name and bought as needed.. thus got caught with pants down.. and many are now hoarding or playing catch up..
 

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It is amazing. If anyone was alive four years ago and into guns four years ago they most certainly would have seen this hoarding coming. Now, I understand that some did not want to admit that Romney might loose but they should have covered the bases none the less.

It should have been obvious to the most casual observer that IF Obama won he would take off the mask and revert to the hard progressive liberal he is and has been probably most of his life. He has already started to get his "list" done and he'll not be stopped by the law or the courts. He's going to do it by presidential edict. So those with this insight are the one's most prepared and not caught without the guns they always wanted or ammo for them.

For those moaning about the ammo/gun shortages....you should have been a bit more aware of the world around you and hoarded like the rest of us, starting last summer.

For those of you that think you have it all covered by reloading, you are wrong. You can hoard all the brass and bullets, cast your own bullets, even make black powder, if it comes to that, but the key element is the primer. That you can not make and no matter how many you have today they will eventually run out. With none to buy you too will be screwed like the rest of us.

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yep...

anyone remember the blurb from obama saying he could get away with more once his 2nd term started.

well it's come to pass.
 

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New here but not to guns. Luckily my whole family are gun people and over the past few years we have amased a fairly respectable amount of ammo. We do continue to pick up additional powder, primmers and bullets and loaded ammo on a regular bases. I was at bass pro shop today just looking around to see what was available picked up a pound of 2400 and steped over to the loaded ammo isle. There was a young man there wide eyed pulling 40s&w 100 packs off the shelf. Waiting patiently as he was there first, he turned to me and asked "how many do you want", I replies "well I could use a coupleof boxes" He politely handed me two boxes off the shelf turned and exited the area with his six boxes of rounds. There were a few boxes left on the shelf which I left for the next lucky person. I think we need to get what we need just in case but leave some for others in need if possible. My co-op is my family.
 

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LD, My grandkids will never run outta primers either. What I need is your reloading knowledge & smarts.

I really think all this gun control talk is going nowheres; and the filthy Dems are gonna be shell shocked nx election. I called Natchez the other day, and I was number 78 on the order line; gave me pause and a sense of warmth inside. Big Ears has really under estimated how pissed he has the silent majority concerning gun control. They will set him straight in 2014, like 1994.
 

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To RustyFN- It would work with buying power.
Just 1000 people with an investment of $500 each would give you a half a million dollars.
That half a million will buy you cheaper ammo and push you way ahead of other orders.
With tens of thousands of $500 to $1000 investments your 223 ammo would be the same as what the government buys at.
Storage and delivery has to be worked out, but remember, we live in an age where one person and a PC can accomplish a lot.
 

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To RustyFN- It would work with buying power.
Just 1000 people with an investment of $500 each would give you a half a million dollars.
That half a million will buy you cheaper ammo and push you way ahead of other orders.
With tens of thousands of $500 to $1000 investments your 223 ammo would be the same as what the government buys at.
Storage and delivery has to be worked out, but remember, we live in an age where one person and a PC can accomplish a lot.
Ok I see where you are going now. That would work well if you all lived close. It will all be shipped to one location and when you get the bulk order you don't have any way to ship any of it to others. That's what I have done. I order bulk with a couple of friends. We always max out a hazmat, that's 50,000 primers or 48 pounds of powder. I haven't bought components since 2007.
 
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