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  1. rooter

    rooter *VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff* Supporting Member

    Jan 31, 2001
    Glendale Arizona
    Sent to me by a former NOSC employee in the know...

    November 6, 2012
    Tim Brown

    Second Russian Sub Detected Near US Coast In 3 Months

    A report Monday confirms that a Russian submarine was detected just 200 miles off the east coast of the United States. The sub was near Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base in Georgia, the home port of two U.S. guided missile submarines and six nuclear missile submarines. Russian Sierra-2 class submarine. The Washington Free Beacon reports, the submarine was identified by its NATO designation as a Russian Sierra-2 class submarine believed to be based with Russia’s Northern Fleet. It was the first time that class of Russian submarine had been detected near a U.S. coast, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of anti-submarine warfare efforts. One defense official said the submarine was believed to have been conducting anti-submarine warfare efforts against U.S. ballistic and cruise missile submarines based at Kings Bay, Georgia. Earlier this year, in August, the Free Beacon reported on another Russian submarine off the U.S. coast in the Gulf of Mexico that was undetected for a month! The Beacon reported: Vepr Russian nuclear submarine of the Project 971 Shchuka-B type, or Akula-class (Shark). The stealth underwater incursion in the Gulf took place at the same time Russian strategic bombers made incursions into restricted U.S. airspace near Alaska and California in June and July, and highlights a growing military assertiveness by Moscow. The submarine patrol also exposed what U.S. officials said were deficiencies in U.S. anti-submarine warfare capabilities—forces that are facing cuts under the Obama administration’s plan to reduce defense spending by $487 billion over the next 10 years. The Navy is in charge of detecting submarines, especially those that sail near U.S. nuclear missile submarines, and uses undersea sensors and satellites to locate and track them. The fact that the Akula was not detected in the Gulf is cause for concern, U.S. officials said. “The Akula was built for one reason and one reason only: To kill U.S. Navy ballistic missile submarines and their crews,” said a second U.S. official.“It’s a very stealthy boat so it can sneak around and avoid detection and hope to get past any protective screen a boomer might have in place,” the official said, referring to the Navy nickname for strategic missile submarines. One U.S. official said of this latest submarine, “A Russian AGI and an SSN in the same geographic area as one of the largest U.S. ballistic missile submarine bases—Kings Bay—is reminiscent of Cold War activities of the Soviet navy tracking the movements of our SSBN’s.” “While I can’t talk about how we detected it, I can tell you that things worked the way they were supposed to,” said another, stating that the Russian submarine “poses no threat whatsoever.” Both officials contributed their comments under condition of anonymity. Awr Hawkins at Breitbart.com notes: Making matters worse, the sub was accompanied by one of Russia’s intelligence gathering ships: an Auxillary-General Intelligence ship (AGI). This is an electronic intelligence gathering vessel of the sort that used to be deployed during the Cold War. An anonymous U.S. official would not say how the U.S. detected the presence of the Russian sub, he would only say that we did detect it. As for the AGI ship, it requested and received safe harbor at Jacksonville, FL when Sandy rolled in behind it. In February 2012, Russian Navy Commander Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky promised that Russia’s strategic nuclear subs were going to begin patrolling the world’s waters. And it appears he was right. Friends, this is what we talk about when we say stop fighting foreign unconstitutional wars and being the policeman of the world and start taking national defense seriously. For someone to say that a Russian sub that is specifically built to be undetected and was within a couple hundred miles of our coast for a month and then here a second was picked up near where several of our nuclear armed subs are located “poses no threat whatsoever” seems a bit naïve to me. No, not naïve…deadly stupid! It’s time to stop defending the other nations of the world and start defending our own borders at home.
  2. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    treason lying , is what i'd call it

    but hey .. thats me
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2012