Barack Obama denied honorary degree!

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  1. Vladimir

    Vladimir Active Member

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    Thank God someone is calling him on his messiah status. This is of particular interest since my culminating research paper for my History degree is about the history of honorary degrees at Whitworth University (my uni).

    -- CNN --

    (CNN) – The commencement season controversies are continuing for the White House with Arizona State University's decision not to award President Obama an honorary degree when he addresses graduates next month.

    The university says that the president's achievements have yet to rate the honor, and is directing reporters to use a statement given to the Associated Press. "His body of work is yet to come. That's why we're not recognizing him with a degree at the beginning of his presidency," Media Relations Director Sharon Keller told the AP Thursday.

    The university's guidelines say the degree is merited by "significant contributions to education and society over the course of a person's career," though Sandra Day O'Connor and Barry Goldwater — both Arizonans — received the honor after the latter had served just over one term in the Senate, and the former was roughly three years into her Supreme Court tenure. Also honored: activist Cesar Chavez, legendary Arizona senator and former presidential candidate Mo Udall, and broadcaster Walter Cronkite.

    The White House has not commented on ASU's decision.

    Last month, the National Right to Life Committee called on the University of Notre Dame to rescind its invitation to President Obama to speak at that school's May commencement, and the bishop for the Ft. Wayne/South Bend diocese said he planned to boycott the university's graduation ceremony. Bishop John D'Arcy said his decision "is not an attack on anyone, but is in defense of the truth about human life."

    Notre Dame has said it has no plans to rescind the president's invite.

    This year, President Obama will also address the graduating class at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis.
     
  2. 4EvrLearning

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    couldn't have happened to a nicer guy! *hair flip*
     

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    HAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! You ugly multi-colored jerk.
     
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    Now ASU is changing their story.....


    Obama may get ASU honor after all
    Politico

    Mike Allen Mike Allen – 1 hr 43 mins ago

    Michael M. Crow, president of Arizona State University, tells POLITICO that the school is reconsidering its widely mocked plans not to give President Barack Obama an honorary degree when he speaks at commencement on May 13 and will “honor him in every way possible.”

    “There was no intended slight,” Crow said by telephone from his office in Tempe. “We had not yet talked about what honors we might give him as our commencement speaker, and we still have a month to work all that out. We don’t want anyone to think we do not recognize what he has achieved and what he means in America.”

    A formal decision has not been made, but it was clear from Crow's comments that the university is headed in that direction. ASU risked becoming a national punch line if it did not quickly retreat from its policy against conferring honorary degrees on a sitting politician.

    Past recipients of ASU honorary degrees included an aloe-vera magnate, the director of "Victor Victoria," a Chinese official, a Canadian politician, and lots of donors and fundraisers.

    Four days after addressing ASU, Obama will give the commencement address at Notre Dame, which is conferring an honorary degree despite some local criticism of the choice of speaker.

    Obama has received honorary degrees from Knox College in 2005, Northwestern University In 2006, UMass Boston in 2006, Xavier in 2006, Howard University in 2007, Southern New Hampshire University in 2007, and Wesleyan University in 2008.

    ASU’s student daily, the State Press, touched off a firestorm this week when it reported under the headline, “Obama won’t receive ASU honorary degree":

    "University spokeswoman Sharon Keeler said Tuesday that the University awards honorary degrees to recognize individuals for their work and accomplishments spanning their lifetime. ‘Because President Obama’s body of work is yet to come, it’s inappropriate to recognize him at this time,' Keeler said."

    Crow said the resulting brouhaha "kind of wounded my heart." He said ASU hasn’t “had a commencement speaker in over 30 years, so this is a big deal for us.”

    “Typically, the university’s policy relative to honorary degrees has been that people who are sitting politicians, we don’t given an honorary degree,” he explained. “It’s kind of a local thing. We’ve gotten a huge reaction from a lot of folks as if some decision was made not to give him one. Far from it.”

    Crow said he found the criticism ironic because he found Obama's "agenda and objectives,” as outlined in his address to a joint session of Congress, were so aligned with “the institution that we’re business.”

    “We’re a true public university that has remained committed to our public mission,” Crow said. “We have egalitarian admission standards and we provide the finest faculty and programs we can put together, and don’t constantly try to cut out the bottom of the class.”

    In inviting Obama, the university had said it was "America's largest effort at institutional transformation in public education."

    Crow had said in a statement when the school was selected by the White House: "The progressive leadership he has already displayed and the values he espouses are a great example for our students and for the extended community that surrounds us.”

    ASU's president said officials now are considering conferring an honorary degree, regardless of local custom. “We intend to recognize him in multiple ways,” Crow said. “As to this issue relative to the honorary degree, we don’t know where it came from.”

    Here are some of the previous honorary degree recipients, none of whom was elected president at age 47 in a landslide of electoral and popular votes:

    --Blake Edwards, “whose more than 50 films include such memorable titles as ‘Days of Wine and Roses,’ ‘Breakfast at Tiffany’s,’ ‘The Pink Panther,’ ‘Victor Victoria’ and ’10.’”

    --Wu Qidi, “the Chinese Vice Minister Of Education Who Previously Arranged Lucrative Partnership With China’s State-Owned Enterprises.”

    --William Polk Carey, a real-estate investment banker and $50 million donor.

    -- Rex G. Maughan, a beauty-products billionaire whose company touted aloe vera and bee pollen as miracle age-reducers.

    --Jane Dee Hull, Arizona's first elected woman governor.

    -- Alice Wiley Snell, ASU fundraiser.

    --John R. Christian, ASU fundraiser.

    --Lord John Browne of Madingley, a BP executive.

    --The Right Honorable Kim Campbell, Canada’s first woman prime minister.

    --Peterson Zah, president of the Navajo Nation.

    --Rafael Rangel Sostmann, president of Tec of Monterrey, a Mexican university that had signed a business partnership with ASU.

    --Jerry Colangelo, a sports executive involved in plans that would have benefited ASU.

    --L. Roy Papp, a mutual fund manager and his wife, Marilyn A. Papp, huge ASU donors who helped establish a Chinese art program.

    -- Barbara McConnell Barrett, a former Reagan administration official involved in airline deregulation.

    -- Craig E. Weatherup, a huge donor who was the benefactor for the Weatherup Center.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/21120


    Well, first they say his "body of work" doesn't warrant an honorary degree, now they say it does. I"m sure these people got a nastygram or a not nice phone call from some dudes in black suits and Ray-Bans and were told on no uncertain terms that they shouldn't be dissin' the new messiah:rolleyes::rolleyes: either that, or some of Barry's puppetmasters threatened to withhold a bunch of money from the school:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I REALLY like this part of the "reporting".....
    "Here are some of the previous honorary degree recipients, none of whom was elected president at age 47 in a landslide of electoral and popular votes:"

    How is 53% of the popular vote (IIRC, if I'm wrong, someone please correct me) considered a "landslide"?!
     
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  6. Marlin T

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    Well good, maybe ASU could give him an honorary birth cirtificate while theyare it. cowards
     
  7. SaddleSarge

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    But Hawaii already has! How many birth certificates can one man need?:eek::D:rolleyes:
     
  8. Vladimir

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    Honorary degrees are largely a joke unfortunately. Even going through the whole process for my tiny private school a lot of it is just bogus. One of the great ones we gave out was to an Eskimo missionary in Alaska but you read the letters and we were basically like "well someone is going to give it to him and he's in our synod so we might as well do it".
     
  9. 4EvrLearning

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    At this point, for me, is the fact that ASU apparently waffled from their position. So to give it to him now makes a totally different statement than the very strong statement they initially made, which was honest and accurate! Boy, do I hate politics!!!
     
  10. yellerdawg

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    Just saw ticker on CNN " ASU regrets initial error regarding Degree and visit by POTUS, and has agreed to honor "

    Politics indeed seem to bring out the lack of "character" in all.
     
  11. TranterUK

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    You know you can buy educational certificates to put on the wall without having studied or taken an exam. You can buy service certificates to say you were in the Army or Navy, perhaps even a Navy Seal without ever having worn a uniform for even a day!

    They are worth less than the paper they are printed on and are as false as those who would display them.
     
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  12. mrkirker

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    They are worth less than the paper they are printed on and are as false as those who would display them.
    (itils added)

    Well said!
     
  13. 4EvrLearning

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    I hear what you're saying, Tranter, but my point goes beyond the issuance of funny papers...it goes to the heart of this issue: A university making a bold statement based on what they believed was an honest assessment of his "worthiness" to date...and then recanting that statement and backing down under pressure.
     
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