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I am someone who has hunted all my life, (63) now and enjoyed it immensely. But like many hunters and shooters at my age I have had medical issues that have curtailed my hunting activities. Heart attack and arthritis issues.
My problem is the Defibrillator that was installed after my heart attack. I know that some of you in this forum have the same issue. You basically have a small battery pack installed over your left breast by the shoulder. 2 wires are threaded into your heart that basically act like small jumper cables. I have had mine for 6 years with no problems. I know people that have had the Defibrillator go off and its not a good feeling.
The issue is how much recoil can you handle and not have issues with the Defibrillator. I have given up on high recoil rifles and shotguns.
I have basically went to just using the shooting bench and was wondering what type of gun rest that others on here are using. (Lead Sled, etc.) What caliber rifles or shotguns do you use and have you had any issues. Have you modified your firearms, (Types of pads, Brakes, Recoil Reducers etc.) I have been shooting my heavy barrel varmint rifles (25-06) and have no issue with recoil. Would like to trap shoot again but do not think that is possible. (Any Defib guys shooting trap)?
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I had a heart attack and bypass surgery going on 16 years ago. I don't have a defibrillator and I don't shoot trap but after my surgery, I did talk with my surgeon and heart doctor about shooting. They both told me to wait a while before shooting high powered rifles, one said six weeks and the other said 8-10 weeks. What I am getting at is that you might want to talk to your cardiologist before you do any heavy duty shotgun shooting.
 

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I don't have heart problems but do have shoulder problems. If you want to get back to shooting trap buy this shotgun.
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Remington 1100 Competition Trap. Recoil is more like a 22lr then a 12 gauge. The butt pad is called a recoil reducer. It has 2 springs that eat up most of the recoil. You also can get a recoil reducer installed on most shotguns. It will get you back in the game.
 

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What I am getting at is that you might want to talk to your cardiologist before you do any heavy duty shotgun shooting.

This, for sure.
 

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Consider shooting smaller game like whitetail and using an ar-15 with a muzzle brake.
I've read article about 22 mag for deer at closer range.
I'm not a hunter, but I'm sure there are options if you can modify your hunting if necessary.
You could try like a reloader finding the right load. Work up until you pass out then back off a few grains or caliber!:rolleyes::duh:
I kind of did that after my heart attack on aggressiveness of exercise. The doc even said that would be fine.
So check with the doc. You may not be all that fragile, just possible minor limitations.
 

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Thank you for the reply's. My issue is the Defibrillator and the wires that run to the heart. Recoil can be issue with them coming loose. Not Good. Wondering what tools people are using on the bench. Shooting 22s or 20 ga. low brass for small game is ok. Like the 1100 listed but beyond my price range. May look into price on Recoil Reducer on the 1100. Just getting thoughts on bench shooting gear for the most part. I have turned into a paper puncher.
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Don't have heart problems but at 72 I started worrying about how I'd get an animal out by myself. Just decided to give it up pretty much. That was two years ago. But just shooting and small game, shoot something like a 223 is not only legal for deer but hardly recoils at all. Trap and skeet shooter. If you competitive this might not work. Look for a 28ga. I've got two now and absolutely love them. They are what I hunt birds with though I don't hunt any heavy birds with them. Small game, RF 22's I love my 22 mag but if I were a small game hunter I'd take it or my 410 shotgun. All the recoil becomes a non issue I would think like that. Another thing, requires reloading, would be shooting cast bullet's in CF rifles. I have a 180gr cast load for my 30-06 and 308 that recoil's less than a 22 RF, if that's possible. Trick is to use small amounts of fast powder.
 

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My problem with bench shooting is my heart beats so hard I can't hold the gun still. If I touch the gun anywhere I can see my heartbeat in the scope. There is no way I can make an accurate shot with all that going on.
 

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Thank you for the reply's. My issue is the Defibrillator and the wires that run to the heart. Recoil can be issue with them coming loose. Not Good. Wondering what tools people are using on the bench. Shooting 22s or 20 ga. low brass for small game is ok. Like the 1100 listed but beyond my price range. May look into price on Recoil Reducer on the 1100. Just getting thoughts on bench shooting gear for the most part. I have turned into a paper puncher.
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I have had to go down from my .375 H&H model 70 to a Remington 660 carbine in .243 for big game. And I just bought a Remington 11/87 twenty gauge shotgun. I have severe arthritis in both shoulders and it's painful to shoot.
 

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With the cardiologists I used to work with they always recommend to take it easy for 8 to 10 weeks. Reason for this is that within time tissue grows around the device and helps keep it in place. But in all honesty I have never ever considered recoil, great question! As George recommended talk to the cardiologist. I'm inclined to believe that after 6 years you should be fine. With the heart muscle if nothing has come loose it ain't coming loose. You could opt to use a low recoil rifle like a 7mm-08 with an additional muzzle brake and still be good for elk.
 

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If you still want hunt deer out over 200 yards, Howa offers their mini action in 6.5 Grendel. I got to shoot one last year, and with 100-120 gr bullets, recoil is very light. Also that rifle was really accurate. Out of the box .5” groups @ 100 yards. Or an AR in 6.5 Grendel which is even softer recoil.
 

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I'll agree with talking to your cardiologist. He knows you and your condition, and will be best placed to advise you.

My problem with bench shooting is my heart beats so hard I can't hold the gun still.
Have you checked your blood pressure recently?
 

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I do not have a defibrillating pacemaker, but my dad did. If your pacemaker is a MedTronic unit, give them a call and they can speak to your recoil concern. They are great customer service oriented folks. After my heart attack I did not have a pacemaker installed, but I still wanted to significantly reduce the felt recoil from shooting my rifles and shotguns with punishing recoil impulses. So, years ago I purchased a Past Magnum Recoil Shield. Past recoil pads have a quite dense polymer material at their core that spreads the recoil impulse over a much greater shoulder area. That unit was superbly effective and alleviated great amounts of punishing recoil. Past now has a Super Magnum Recoil Shield model available that should provide you with even more felt recoil reduction, as well as significant peace of mind. Highly recommended.
 

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LimbSaver AirTech Slip-On Recoil Pad, size Small/Medium 10549, ½-inch Thick
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I use one of these on my Ruger O/U when shooting skeet. The recoil reduction is significant. Walmart sells them for around $30.
 

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LimbSaver AirTech Slip-On Recoil Pad, size Small/Medium 10549, ½-inch Thick
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I use one of these on my Ruger O/U when shooting skeet. The recoil reduction is significant. Walmart sells them for around $30.
If you use one of these.
DO NOT LEAVE THEM ON. Take them off when not in use.
They will destroy your finish on your stock.
 
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