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I just got the extended magazine for my P.A. HP22A, and it fits and feeds well, except for the first shot when I have the magazine at max 10rd capacity. Any less than 10, it has no problem cycling the rounds. I was wondering if simply loading the mag with 10 rounds and let it sit for a few days would safely break in the spring so it lightens up a bit. Any advice is appreciated :cool:
 

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Usually keeping the mag loaded will help break in the mag a little. You might want to look and see how that last round is sitting compared to the others as well. The mag might need a bit of tuning to get it right.

I’ve got a little HP22A as well. It’s really my daughter’s but she doesn’t shoot very often. That means I have more time to play with it. 😁
 

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Usually keeping the mag loaded will help break in the mag a little. You might want to look and see how that last round is sitting compared to the others as well. The mag might need a bit of tuning to get it right.

I’ve got a little HP22A as well. It’s really my daughter’s but she doesn’t shoot very often. That means I have more time to play with it. 😁
Thanks, Ill check it out to see if it's not sitting properly.
 

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Usually keeping the mag loaded will help break in the mag a little. You might want to look and see how that last round is sitting compared to the others as well. The mag might need a bit of tuning to get it right.

I’ve got a little HP22A as well. It’s really my daughter’s but she doesn’t shoot very often. That means I have more time to play with it. 😁
I had never heard of tuning a magazine before as I had never encountered a feeding problem on any of the firearms Ive owned in the past, but after I read your comment, the only thing I could think of when you said fine tuning the mag, was looking at the top of the magazine where it holds the round in place, so after I left that initial reply, I went to check out the mag while ammo was in it, and noticed that the mag was not holding the top round in a proper position, and when I compared it side by side with the stock magazine loaded, there was a night and day difference, so I simply used needle nose pliers to adjust those metal things in the proper position, and what do you know, my HP22A now charges the first of 10 round with absolutely no problem and feels super smooth. I tested a whole mag in my backyard and it cycled flawlessly. Sad thing is, that I have now used well more than half of the box of CCI ammo, and none of my local shops have any left in stock :-( I cant seem to find any available online. I need to have 22lr CCI Velocitor ammo because for some reason 2 other popular brands I tried would not even exit the breech and I would have to use my cleaning rod to push the empty shells out. Do you now a good website that might have 22lr CCI Velocitor ammo in stock?
 

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CCI Velocitors are too hot for that gun. They are designed for Standard Velocity rounds only. I run Aguila Standard Velocity in mine and it cycles without issues. Finding ANY ammo in stock right now is tough but you definitely need to stay away from anything that is over 1050 fps. The frame WILL eventually crack if you continue using High Velocity ammo.
 

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CCI Velocitors are too hot for that gun. They are designed for Standard Velocity rounds only. I run Aguila Standard Velocity in mine and it cycles without issues. Finding ANY ammo in stock right now is tough but you definitely need to stay away from anything that is over 1050 fps. The frame WILL eventually crack if you continue using High Velocity ammo.
Aguila Standard was the very first ammo I tested in this and every round I tried firing would leave the empty shell stuck in the barrel as if the shell expanded and was hugging inside the barrel enough to not exit and eject. I still have the box of it still near full, and cant use it. I tried federal ammo and the shells would exit the barrel but somehow the shell ejector would not keep hold of the rim and eject it, I would get the shells jam in the breech. I had to resort to the higher velocity higher pressure CCI Velocitor ammo, and it has run flawlessly, at least it did with the stock magazine, and did with most rounds I just tested earlier with the extended mag, I just had to modify the top of the mag so it would allow the slide(or bolt w/e it is called) to load smoothly when the mag was at full 10rd capacity. The fella at my local gun shop recommended it to have least chance of having the same problems that I had with the other brands. And btw I just called my local shop and found out they just got a few more boxes of it in stock so Im gonna pick both of them up tomorrow before they disappear for a while again.

Im only using this HP22A and velocitor ammo as a temp for home protection till I get a larger caliber handgun, and I want to wait till I can put out a good $400-$600 for something reliable. I know something like a 12 gauge should be the first option for affordable and reliable home defense, but I just wanted to try something new since I have never really been a handgun guy in the past. Shooting hasnt been my hobby in over a decade but since I moved from N.Y. to Georgia, I wanted to get back into it since we have far more freedoms concerning firearm laws and restrictions here in Georgia as opposed to N.Y., which has a governor who screwed us all almost a decade ago placing bans and restrictions on many firearms I used to have fun with. I love it here in Georgia, they allow us to have licenses to own almost anything here :), .
 

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I love it here in Georgia, they allow us to have licenses to own almost anything here :), .

You don't need a license for any gun (other than the federal license to purchase Class 3 stuff) here in Georgia! If you get yourself a Georgia Weapons Carry License, you can walk into any gun shop in the state and walk out with the gun in the time it takes you for fill out the 4473 form!!
 

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You don't need a license for any gun (other than the federal license to purchase Class 3 stuff) here in Georgia! If you get yourself a Georgia Weapons Carry License, you can walk into any gun shop in the state and walk out with the gun in the time it takes you for fill out the 4473 form!!
I do plan on getting my carry license soon, I found it only costs $75, and is on average a 3 week wait after applying to be approved. I remember when I got my pistol permit in N.Y. 18 years ago, I paid I think it was around $180 and had to wait just over 6 months after applying. BTW when I mentioned having a license for certain guns, I was also referring to the class 3 types, but Ide never be able to afford them, so having that license wouldnt do me any good lol. But my nearby shop has an indoor range, and has many full autos for the public to rent and use in the indoor range. I just wish the ammo didnt cost so much. They want $25 for a box of 50rds of .223 ammo. Thats insane, because back when I was into the semi auto rifles which was pre 2010, I was paying only $1.29 for either 7.62x39 and .223 20rd box of wolf ammo.
 

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Aguila Standard was the very first ammo I tested in this and every round I tried firing would leave the empty shell stuck in the barrel as if the shell expanded and was hugging inside the barrel enough to not exit and eject. I still have the box of it still near full, and cant use it. I tried federal ammo and the shells would exit the barrel but somehow the shell ejector would not keep hold of the rim and eject it, I would get the shells jam in the breech. I had to resort to the higher velocity higher pressure CCI Velocitor ammo, and it has run flawlessly, at least it did with the stock magazine, and did with most rounds I just tested earlier with the extended mag, I just had to modify the top of the mag so it would allow the slide(or bolt w/e it is called) to load smoothly when the mag was at full 10rd capacity. The fella at my local gun shop recommended it to have least chance of having the same problems that I had with the other brands. And btw I just called my local shop and found out they just got a few more boxes of it in stock so Im gonna pick both of them up tomorrow before they disappear for a while again.

Im only using this HP22A and velocitor ammo as a temp for home protection till I get a larger caliber handgun, and I want to wait till I can put out a good $400-$600 for something reliable. I know something like a 12 gauge should be the first option for affordable and reliable home defense, but I just wanted to try something new since I have never really been a handgun guy in the past. Shooting hasnt been my hobby in over a decade but since I moved from N.Y. to Georgia, I wanted to get back into it since we have far more freedoms concerning firearm laws and restrictions here in Georgia as opposed to N.Y., which has a governor who screwed us all almost a decade ago placing bans and restrictions on many firearms I used to have fun with. I love it here in Georgia, they allow us to have licenses to own almost anything here :), .
That almost sounds like an extractor issue rather than a problem with the ammo. PA is not known for their reliability. I’m glad this will be a temporary solution for you. When you are ready, there are a lot of excellent firearms in the price range you’re looking at.

I will tell you again, the high velocity stuff will eventually crack the frame. There are countless reports all over the internet of cracked frames because people were using high velocity ammo. The metal in these little guns is cheap. That’s why the guns are cheap. They can be fun when they work but a PITA when they don’t.
 
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