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are any of the BP rifles I see in bass pro shop or cabelas for $ 60.00 to $150.00 worth buying? wanted a BP sense i was a kid. like the Hawken type .50 cal. how far can you shoot accuratly with BP ?
Edited by: leserz at: 8/19/02 8:54:55 pm
stan741
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(8/21/02 8:05:32 am)
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There is nothing at all wrong with these budget black powder rifles.The only difference between any one of these and one made by a "big name" is fit and finish.And this is true of ANY rifle you can buy.There will of couse possibly be differences in the steel but they are all gonna fire and be reasonably accurate.Also they are ,and I cannot say this too emphatically,ONE HELL OF A LOT OF FUN.
My first BP gun was a CVA Kentucky in .45.Very accurate.Heavy as the devil and LLLOOONNNGGG.I did kill several deer with it.
Presently I am mainly shooting a .50 T/C White Mountain carbine and have killed several deer with it.Usually I will hunt muzzle loader season and then use a modern rifle for the first part of regular gun season.Then I go right back to the T/C for the remainer of gun season.This adds a lot of enjoyment to deer hunting for me.
Range of a black powder rifle is in direct proportion to the skill of the shooter and familiarity with the particular weapon.Without going into a lot of detail I use the rule personally that they will shoot as far as I am comfortable with.I do not impose any more limitations on range of a BP gun than I do a regular weapon.There have been recorded kills out to 600 yards.
The budget rifles are a good deal and will get you into the sport and if you want ,you can later buy a more expensive one.Try it, you'll like it.
The more I listen, the more I hear......and vice versa.
leserz
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(8/21/02 9:33:44 am)
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thanks ! i will order one. a buddy on mine got his kid one of the $ 70.00 ones. i shot it once with him was a ball .kaboom and a cloud of smoke.
leserz
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(8/23/02 10:21:41 pm)
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went out today and got a CVA mt.stalker 50 cal.will try to get out this week and do some shooting with it.took me 40+ yrs to get one.better late than never.
stan741
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(10/9/02 4:12:47 am)
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Most consistent accuracy with a black power rifle with standard twist is with a round ball.Many newer rifles have different twist to specifically accomodate conical bullets.
My T/C White Mountain does best with round ball and 80 grains of black powder.
I use swaged balls rather than cast.Swaged balls have no sprue and are more consistently round than cast which to me means the little extra edge in accuracy.Just MHO.
If I were to buy a new rifle I would buy stainless and with a composite stock for hunting only.There is still nothing quite like the look of blue steel and wood but the newer materials are indestructible and much easier kept and cleaned.
Having had several black powder rifles I will comment that the fit and finish of T/C guns is superior to most.
I have always shied away from anything other than black powder as a charge but there are a lot of new items to be had in that respect.Pyrodex and clear shot being among these new products.
I would be interested in hearing results from anyone in comparing these propellants to black powder.
It is a never ending thrill to me every time I pull the trigger and it goes boom.I hunt with a muzzle loader as much as I do with modern rifles even during regular gun season.
You are going to really like these rifles.Keep us posted on your results.
The more I listen, the more I hear......and vice versa.
Member
Posts: 5
(8/19/02 7:17:58 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del All budget BP rifle ?
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are any of the BP rifles I see in bass pro shop or cabelas for $ 60.00 to $150.00 worth buying? wanted a BP sense i was a kid. like the Hawken type .50 cal. how far can you shoot accuratly with BP ?
Edited by: leserz at: 8/19/02 8:54:55 pm
stan741
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Posts: 11
(8/21/02 8:05:32 am)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: budget BP rifle ?
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There is nothing at all wrong with these budget black powder rifles.The only difference between any one of these and one made by a "big name" is fit and finish.And this is true of ANY rifle you can buy.There will of couse possibly be differences in the steel but they are all gonna fire and be reasonably accurate.Also they are ,and I cannot say this too emphatically,ONE HELL OF A LOT OF FUN.
My first BP gun was a CVA Kentucky in .45.Very accurate.Heavy as the devil and LLLOOONNNGGG.I did kill several deer with it.
Presently I am mainly shooting a .50 T/C White Mountain carbine and have killed several deer with it.Usually I will hunt muzzle loader season and then use a modern rifle for the first part of regular gun season.Then I go right back to the T/C for the remainer of gun season.This adds a lot of enjoyment to deer hunting for me.
Range of a black powder rifle is in direct proportion to the skill of the shooter and familiarity with the particular weapon.Without going into a lot of detail I use the rule personally that they will shoot as far as I am comfortable with.I do not impose any more limitations on range of a BP gun than I do a regular weapon.There have been recorded kills out to 600 yards.
The budget rifles are a good deal and will get you into the sport and if you want ,you can later buy a more expensive one.Try it, you'll like it.
The more I listen, the more I hear......and vice versa.
leserz
Member
Posts: 6
(8/21/02 9:33:44 am)
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thanks ! i will order one. a buddy on mine got his kid one of the $ 70.00 ones. i shot it once with him was a ball .kaboom and a cloud of smoke.
leserz
Member
Posts: 7
(8/23/02 10:21:41 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: budget BP rifle ?
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went out today and got a CVA mt.stalker 50 cal.will try to get out this week and do some shooting with it.took me 40+ yrs to get one.better late than never.
stan741
Member
Posts: 20
(10/9/02 4:12:47 am)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: budget BP rifle ?
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Most consistent accuracy with a black power rifle with standard twist is with a round ball.Many newer rifles have different twist to specifically accomodate conical bullets.
My T/C White Mountain does best with round ball and 80 grains of black powder.
I use swaged balls rather than cast.Swaged balls have no sprue and are more consistently round than cast which to me means the little extra edge in accuracy.Just MHO.
If I were to buy a new rifle I would buy stainless and with a composite stock for hunting only.There is still nothing quite like the look of blue steel and wood but the newer materials are indestructible and much easier kept and cleaned.
Having had several black powder rifles I will comment that the fit and finish of T/C guns is superior to most.
I have always shied away from anything other than black powder as a charge but there are a lot of new items to be had in that respect.Pyrodex and clear shot being among these new products.
I would be interested in hearing results from anyone in comparing these propellants to black powder.
It is a never ending thrill to me every time I pull the trigger and it goes boom.I hunt with a muzzle loader as much as I do with modern rifles even during regular gun season.
You are going to really like these rifles.Keep us posted on your results.
The more I listen, the more I hear......and vice versa.