Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Shizamus, May 10, 2003.

  1. Shizamus

    Shizamus New Member

    Jun 27, 2001
    President Bush's Boy Feels the Sting of His Boss' Mistake

    by Sam Cohen

    May 8, 2003

    KeepAndBearArms.com -- The New Hampshire State Republican
    Committee is sponsoring a series of in-state visits from
    party bigwigs. Last night, Karl Rove, advisor to the
    President, and a friend of George W. Bush for 30 years,
    spoke at a lecture hall at Southern New Hampshire
    University, in Manchester. The hall was full, with several
    hundred people there, including a state senator, a recent
    Congressional candidate, and a number of other people I
    knew. (New Hampshire's a small state.) I sat in the front
    row, and after Rove's speech, was the last of a half-dozen
    people to be recognized for questions.

    I introduced myself as a director of Gun Owners of New
    Hampshire, the NRA state affiliate, noting -- for the
    benefit of the audience -- that even Bill Clinton admitted
    that the country's 83 million gun owners, and the NRA,
    delivered the electoral votes of Arkansas, Tennessee, and
    West Virginia in the 2000 election. I then told of
    assistant White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan's
    statement a couple of weeks ago that President Bush had
    joined Democrat senators Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer
    in calling for renewal of the so-called Assault Weapons Ban
    of 1994, due to sunset after ten years in 2004.

    My question was whether President Bush was aware that many
    thousands of gun-rights activists around the country felt so
    strongly about this that we had drawn a line in the sand (my
    exact words), and would not support ANY politician -- even
    President Bush himself -- who supported this atrocious

    Rove began his answer by referring to the tremendous amount
    of email that the White House had received on this subject,
    but then he shot back the question of whether we supported
    Bush in the 2000 elections.

    I said "absolutely." His follow-up was that Bush had
    publicly campaigned on his position of "enforcing existing
    gun laws," and his position hasn't changed; he was just
    being consistent. Rove then closed the session and walked
    off the stage.

    Just a few minutes later, I approached him to continue in
    private as he was leaving the building; I was the last to do
    so before he got into his car. This is where it got
    interesting: Rove took my arm and literally got in my face,
    using the old drill sergeant intimidation trick of speaking
    through clenched teeth with his nose an inch from mine. It
    didn't work, because I'm taller (and older, and uglier) than
    he is, and I took HIS arm in turn. He told me that Bush was
    sticking to his position, but that Congress would never pass
    the legislation. I told him that there were a lot of us,
    that we were dead serious, and that if Bush let the ban get
    renewed he'd lose the election, because freedom is more
    important than politics. He looked at me -- still with
    clenched teeth -- turned, and walked to his car, obviously

    GOOD! First, his anger told me that he knew that the
    hypocritical strategy was dangerous. More importantly, it
    tells me he'll remember the exchange.

    Molon Labe!

    Sam Cohen http://www.thespiritof76.com/rkba.html

    * RKBA! (...the exclamation point means "shall not be
  2. warpig

    warpig Guest

    It looks like our message is getting across.

    Now is not the time to let up on them.

  3. Zigzag2

    Zigzag2 Guest

  4. Evilahole

    Evilahole New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Well...the line is drawn...let's see if they dare to step across it.
  5. 1952Sniper

    1952Sniper New Member

    Aug 22, 2002
    I hope ol' GW has an empty feeling in his gut right now. I'm hoping that he is seriously reconsidering changing his position on this matter. I'm hoping it's becoming a key issue for him.

    I do admire a man who sticks to his guns, so to speak. He made a campaign promise and it appears that he intends to stick with it, right or wrong. That does say something about character. But on the other hand, I believe that he picked the wrong side of the fence to be on. He really needs to find a graceful way to change sides on this one.

    All he needs to say is that he is sticking with his original position of supporting existing laws. That would include the existing date of sunset for the AW ban. Simple enough, case closed, end of story. Instead, he's going to butt the proverbial stump by sticking to his position of supporting renewal. I, for one, will not support re-election for Bush if he continues to encourage unconstitutional laws. His ramrodding of the USA Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and other questionable acts have pretty destroyed any faith I had in him, and this one will be the straw that broke the camel's back.

    I have come to the clear conclusion that Bush deeply cares about the strength of America as a nation, but doesn't give a rip about the rights, liberties, or welfare of the individual people of America.
  6. Evilahole

    Evilahole New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Well put Sniper.
    It's time to stare him down and see who blinks.
  7. Admin

    Admin Active Member Staff Member

    Feb 9, 2001
    If he rolls over on us, then he sure as hell gets no support
    from me, and if there's no other choice, than I'll vote for
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The game of chicken can sometimes effect both participants, and
    then who survives the head-on?
  9. riderbob

    riderbob New Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    Just west of " You sure do live a long way from
    bush boy

    Great job shiz!!! Time to get personal with all our elected represenatives. Lets all try to put a face on the gun owners of America. Individual rights are what make this a great country. We need to let the population know that if "we don't hang togeather we shall all hang seperately".

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