Could obama be involved in gunrunning

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  1. bamajoey

    bamajoey Well-Known Member

    Aug 17, 2009
    The Real Reason Behind Benghazigate

    October 26, 2012

    President Obama's once seemingly unstoppable march toward re-election hit what he might call "bumps in the road" in Benghazi , Libya , late on Sept. 11, 2012. It might be more accurate to describe the effect of the well-planned and -executed, military-style attack on a diplomatic facility there as the political equivalent of a devastating improvised explosive device on the myth of the unassailability of the Obama record as commander in chief.

    Thanks to intrepid investigative reporting -- notably by Bret Baier and Catherine Herridge at Fox News, Aaron Klein at and Clare Lopez at -- and information developed by congressional investigators, the mystery is beginning to unravel with regard to what happened that night and the reason for the subsequent, clumsy official cover-up now known as Benghazigate.

    The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East . Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat J. Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the "opposition" in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.

    Once Moammar Gadhafi was overthrown, Stevens was appointed ambassador to the new Libya run by Mr. Belhadj and his friends. Not surprisingly, one of the most important priorities for someone in that position would be to try to find and secure the immense amount of armaments that had been cached by the dictator around the country and systematically looted during and after the revolution.

    One of the places in Libya most awash with such weapons in the most dangerous of hands is Benghazi . It now appears that Stevens was there -- on a particularly risky day, with no security to speak of and despite now copiously documented concerns about his own safety and that of his subordinates -- for another priority mission: sending arms recovered from the former regime's stocks to the "opposition" in Syria . As in Libya , the insurgents are known to include al Qaeda and other Shariah-supremacist groups, including none other than Abdelhakim Belhadj.

    Fox News has chronicled how the Al Entisar, a Libyan-flagged vessel carrying 400 tons of cargo, docked on Sept. 6 in the Turkish port of Iskenderun . It reportedly supplied both humanitarian assistance and arms -- including deadly SA-7 man-portable surface-to-air missiles -- apparently destined for Islamists, again including al Qaeda elements, in Syria .

    What cries out for further investigation -- and debate in the remaining days of this presidential election -- is whether this shipment was part of a larger covert Obama effort to transfer weapons to our enemies that could make the Iran-Contra scandal, to say nothing of Operation Fast and Furious, pale by comparison.

    Investigative journalist Aaron Klein has reported that the "consulate in Benghazi " actually was no such thing. He observes that although administration officials have done nothing to correct that oft-repeated characterization of the facility where the murderous attack on Stevens and his colleagues was launched, they call it a "mission." What Mr. Klein describes as a "shabby, nondescript building" that lacked any "major public security presence" was, according to an unnamed Middle Eastern security official, "routinely used by Stevens and others to coordinate with the Turkish, Saudi and Qatari governments on supporting the insurgencies in the Middle East, most prominently the rebels opposing Assad's regime in Syria."

    We know that Stevens' last official act was to hold such a meeting with an unidentified "Turkish diplomat." Presumably, the conversation involved additional arms shipments to al Qaeda and its allies in Syria . It also may have involved getting more jihadi fighters there. After all, Mr. Klein reported last month that, according to sources in Egyptian security, our ambassador was playing a "central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria ."

    It gets worse. Last week, Center for Security Policy senior fellow and former career CIA officer Clare Lopez observed that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with the so-called "consulate" whose purpose has yet to be disclosed. As their contents were raided in the course of the attack, we may never know for sure whether they housed -- and were known by the local jihadis to house -- arms, perhaps administered by the two former Navy SEALs killed along with Stevens.

    What we do know is that the New York Times -- one of the most slavishly pro-Obama publications in the country -- reported in an Oct. 14 article, "Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster."

    In short, it seems President Obama has been engaged in gun-walking on a massive scale. The effect has been to equip America 's enemies to wage jihad not only against regimes it once claimed were our friends, but inevitably against us and our allies as well. That would explain his administration's desperate and now failing bid to mislead the voters through the serial deflections of Benghazigate.

    Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. is President of the Center for Security Policy and a columnist for the Washington Times.

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  2. GunnyGene

    GunnyGene New Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    When the Gov't does it, it's called foreign aid. ;)

  3. WHSmithIV

    WHSmithIV Well-Known Member

    May 3, 2012
    Moore, Idaho
    All the more reason to have Obama and everyone in his administration connected in any way with this tried for treason and put behind bars or executed.
  4. jbmid1

    jbmid1 Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2011
    Tucson, AZ
    Op Fast & Furious on steroids. Didn't learn from the first debacle.
  5. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    People in the Reagan administration went to jail for smuggling arms.
  6. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    I didn't read the story. I dont have to. ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

    The public is gona find out he was involved in alot of stuff. Bigger guns to i suspect, much bigger.
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2012
  7. Old Grump

    Old Grump New Member

    Feb 21, 2010
    Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin
    Could Obama be involved in gunrunning?

    Well I hate to break it to him but the buck stops at his desk, not George Bush Jr.
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